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Solo [Official Info] Solo: A Star Wars Story - May 25, 2018

Discussion in 'Anthology' started by newdawn12, Dec 29, 2014.

  1. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Actually I think you're right. I thought that was Lando but going by how he pronounces Han correctly it's probably more likely that's Beckett. Hmm. I guess that means Beckett could be the one in the gunner position and Lando is... somewhere else.
     
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  2. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Actually, it’s about more equal representation and righting some wrongs from the past, including elimination of bad racial and gender stereotypes and terrible social norms.

    So...100 percent about social justice. In my experience, those who complain usually find nothing wrong with, or even enjoy, terrible racial or gender stereotypes and the idea that white men are the default hero.
     
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  3. Satipo

    Satipo Force Ghost star 7

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    That's what I was thinking. And if you listen, he sounds like Woody.
     
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  4. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Agreed. So I'm guessing Val and Beckett are in the two gunner positions. Han and Qi'ra are piloting then Chewie takes over for Qi'ra while she goes to help Lando. I bet L3 is dead by this point and Lando is preparing the shuttle thing to make a diversion.
     
  5. PymParticles

    PymParticles Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I have a feeling losing L3 is what convinces Lando to officially get out of this life for good.
     
  6. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    Nope, still not what that phrase means today.

    A good example of SJW behavior is JJ Abrams saying that people who have problems with TLJ are just intimidated by women. Scoring points.
     
  7. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    @11-4D : You know you sound like a man trying to mansplain feminism to a feminist, right?

    “You may consider yourself a feminist but you don’t know what feminism really is.”

    Maybe leave it to the people who support a cause to explain it, as opposed to people who oppose a cause trying to tell people who support it what they are actually supporting.

    We know what we support.
     
  8. Avnar

    Avnar Force Ghost star 4

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    Why do things around here always descend into politics and agendas being pushed and...oh never mind [face_dunno]
     
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  9. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    They descend into such when someone posts that they hope there is no “SJW agenda” in upcoming movies. You can’t expect to post something like that on a site with a hate speech and sexism policy and not get any pushback, so don’t accuse people pushing back of “pushing an agenda,” take it up with the people complaining about “SJWs” in the first place.

    Anyway...this cool post on the Star Wars Facebook page for May 4:

    May the 4th be with you
     
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  10. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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  11. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    How else should one describe an SJW movie without saying SJW?

    This movie is called SOLO I think it is fair to say that Solo should be the hero in his own story don't you? Now if we find Han is useless at everything and constantly gets belittled, would that not be a problem to you? There is no hate in what I said. I just want a good story and adventure that does the characters we know justice.
     
  12. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  13. Strongbow

    Strongbow Force Ghost star 5

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    The use of term like "SJW" is intended to be demeaning and dismissive. Personally, I never understood the use of that term as an insult. I can't think of anything better to be a warrior for than social justice.
     
  14. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    @Blackhole E Snoke : Easy. Just say that (general) you hope that Han isn’t useless at everything and constantly getting belittled the way Finn was portrayed in TLJ (or Poe). I agree with you there; I doubt there are many people who would not.

    Blaming that on “SJWs” or “feminists” becomes the problem, because that’s not what feminists or “SJWs” stand for. Leia slapping Poe, Finn being belittled by Rose, were not “feminist portrayals.” They looked to me like strawman-portrayals of “feminism” by someone who does not like gender equality trying to explain to actual feminists what feminism is.

    Also, the natural progression from use of the term “SJW” has been comments like, ‘I’m sick of female leads’, ‘Put that female character in some sexy clothes dammit,’ or some of the terrible comments made after John Boyega’s casting.
     
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  15. Amdrag

    Amdrag Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    He specifically said that in response to the complaints about women characters being in the forefront (weird complaint about TLJ) and the cut of the film that removed the women. At least I pretty sure he did. If that is the case, would that be wrong?
     
  16. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Just saw a new TV spot and it definitely showed Beckett in the gunner position. It also showed both Han and Chewie being led out of the Falcon in chains and what looked to be Lando behind them in his Jabba guard disguise from ROTJ. I'd have to see it a few more times to be sure but it definitely looked like the exact same disguise. Strange.
     
  17. Darth Nave

    Darth Nave Jedi Master star 4

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    My thoughts reading this thread now:

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  18. Millennium Falcon 888

    Millennium Falcon 888 Jedi Master star 4

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    The Solo poster has come out in local cinemas - taken when I was going to watch Avengers: Infinity War last weekend... Even if I was hoping that it would be the latest version actually!
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    Sent from MillenniumFalcon.888 operating system
     
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  19. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    I think the biggest problem with the term SJW is that no one agrees on exactly what it means. It doesn’t have a long history of usage like, say: radical environmentalist, white nationalist, civil rights activist, or libertarian. Even very new political terms like “men’s rights activist” or “anti-racism” seem to have much firmer definitions. One key element I’ve noticed with “SJW” is that almost no one seems to unconditionally identify with it. As someone who considers himself a liberal/leftist, I think that it can describe both positive and negative aspects of leftist thought. In the below diagram, David Auerbach illustrated a framework for identifying leftist concepts along an axis of Trust (x), and an axis of Agency (y), and I think SJWism fits somewhere into the Moralist Cluster, maybe even in its deepest corner. I’d highly recommend reading his essay to anyone interested in online politics. #JeNeSuisPasLiberal: Entering the Quagmire of Online Leftism
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  20. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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  21. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    Beckett in the gunnery position, yes.

    Han and Chewie are taken inside the Kessel plant as prisoners (inside job) and that's Beckett in disguise as their warder. Qi'ra and Lando take on the role of Slavers probably.
     
  22. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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  23. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    I'm wondering whether L3-37 takes the droids away with her on another ship? All those freed slaves and droids must go somewhere and I would guess that those corvettes on the poster are actually part of the Kessel fleet (which they commandeer). Of course L3-37's free droid colony could always come into play somewhere in another movie....
     
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  24. Trikuza23

    Trikuza23 Jedi Knight star 2

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    K2-SO was hard enough, how much more loss can I take?
     
  25. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Chosen One star 6

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    I think it's great that they are touching on this subject. In every movie we have had examples of droids displaying 'human' behaviour. If they can form friendships, look out for each other, even have a vicious streak (EV-9D9 I'm looking at you), etc. then surely they are touching on sentiency? The freeing of slaves runs through these movies so to see it from the droid's point of view will be something new.