Official Legacy of the Force: Betrayal Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

I would have to agree, Zekk is a cool character, but he needs to stand on his own feet apart from Jaina. I don't think the two of them should be an "Item." It was kind of weird having them together like the were in the DN series. I really liked the Jaina - Jag combo. I would like to see that come back.

 

Have any of you read the new Legacy#0 spoilers?

 

I wished the whole time he was falling from that speeder on Corellia, Come on, just let him fall! SPLAT!

 

Perhaps Sacrifice will be Leia and? Han sacrificing themselves to save Allana? After Leia's thoughts to herself about what she would and would not sacrifice.

Anyway, Wedge won't die in LotF. Why? I'll cry hysterically. :-D

 

I think this was the first book where I didn't mind Zekk and actually warmed up to him. I've been reading about him ever since YJK first came out and I've always had an aversion to him, especially through the NJO and Dark Nest trilogy, but the way Allston writes him...I think Zekk finally grew up.

Also, I asked around on TOS about the possibility of a LOTF feature in Insider, and Leland Chee gave me this response-

Insider #88 explores the making of Betrayal but I don't know of a "Who's Who" type article for the novels at this time. Be sure to check out Insider Editor Frank Parisi's A Little Short for a Stormtrooper blog for the latest developments. You can also e-mail comments to the folks at Insider at comlink@insider.starwars.com.

 

I just could not stand Zekk in this book. He had no personality and everyline he had was so corny and stupid. If he is going to be a main character or something they need to actually give him a personality instead of having him just be Jaina's sidekick and leech off her somewhat lacking personality.

 

He needs to ditch Jaina and head back to Imperial space, try some Alderaanian ale on Jag...

 

I actually liked Zekk in this book, and that's saying something. I didn't in DN at all. I wouldn't mind if he and Jaina got together at all. When Luke and Mara said, "not yet" about him being in the family... I kinda got the feeling that he will be in the family. Which is fine if they keep him and Jaina like they were in this book.

 

I don't think we have to worry about Zekk becoming a member of the Solo family

 

I think you are right. I just hope Zekk doesn't die though, I like the guy. I'm more interested now on Jaina's future regardless of who she's with.

 

I'm jus curious as to why you like Zekk. I was a big fan of him in YJK when he actually had a personality. But what has he really done since his re-introduction in SbS that warrants a fanbase? I feel like we don't even really know him at all. What are his likes/dislikes and goals beyond Jaina Solo? Is this guy more than a one-dimensional character or does he just sit around and pray to a shrine of Jaina Solo he keeps hidden in the back of his closet made out of used chewing gum?

I believe Zekk might be headed for death and I imagine Jacen might do it. It would serve as a way for tension between Jaina and Jacen to grow and perhaps to lead to a possible confrontation between the two. I believe that, at this point, Zekk can really only further the story by dying. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe the Jaina fans won't like it. But I have to agree with Han Solo:

I always liked Kyp Durron better anyway....

 

so, i just finished reading this last night.

man, it feels so good to be right.

 

Did anyone else find it odd that Wedge didn't seem even a little peeved at Leia for shooting down his nephew?

Jacen is still annoying like he has been since the beginning of the NJO and esp since his return after his capture. he's just way too cocky and self assured and doesn't think that anyone's opinion could possibly mean more than his own. TOO ANNOYING, must be brought down a few pegs. And if the future is always in motion, why is he so confident that no matter what if Nelani lives that Luke will die? Echoes of ESB?

 

because Jacen is incapable of being wrong. In his own mind, at least. Which is interesting when you consider how many times Jacen reflects that he would have done some past action differently, not in this book alone, but all the time.

 

If he let Nelani live then I thought he'd have to kill Luke, because he would be denied the knowledge that he desires. I think that that's what was implied. Though I could be wrong.

 

Well.... Zekk doesn't have a lastname, so maybe he could've adopted one???

 

Uh, the name of his rival?

 

Well, I dunno....

 

yeah, i have, and they seem to bode very well for J/J. if the jedi are ben's legacy, and the sith are jacen's, it only seems right that the new empire would be jaina's. and the ruler's name is FEL, is force-sensitive, and his daughter looks like padme... it only seems logical.

 

Just finished Betrayal last night.

By far my favorite book since the last time Allston wrote SW. This book got back to the style I like. Sith and civil war as the baddies is a welcomed return. I've always liked Allston's style of writing (just did a reread of all his X-Wing books).

Wedge and Han were great. I especially like that their friendship was actually shown; that so often isn't covered.

I'm terribly happy to see Jacen becoming a Sith. Now that he's heading toward being the villain, I actually like him.

I thought Ben was written very well. Seems like a smart kid. I don't think he'll become Jacen's Sith apprentice, but you never know.

Really looking forward to the next book in the series, though I'm sorry all the books aren't written by Allston.

I kept hoping he'd die in the beginning of the book when he got blown up a lot. By the end of the book I was resigned to his continued existence for at least a little while longer. I just wish they'd separate him from Jaina. I don't mind him so much if he isn't around her.

 

The Sith look amazing is Legacy. I especially got chills reading about the Darth guy (don't have number 0 with me at the moment) that specializes in intelligence and torture. The only bad thing is that #0 makes a point of how Cade doesn't have a lisghtsaber at the beginning of the series.

 

If Vergere truly was a Sith it could be that she helped Ben be born specificaly so he could become Jacen's apprentice. It his obvious choice anyway, as he's already Jacen's apprentice and is at an age where he could be easily manipulated.

I'm also feeling that maybe it would have been better if Allston wrote the entire thing, my faith in Denning has been shaken by DN and I havent read anything by Karen Travis, but lets wait and see the rest could be just as good.

 

I have a very high opinion of Karen's writing ability (and lets not let the numbers debate creep in) she does "little characters " very well and writes a very good Vader (better than Luceno's in DL IMHO).. ofcourse the only time she's written a major character was in a couple short stories (Vader), so I have no idea how she will do with the Big 3 (but believe that she'll definately do Boba as a POV character, even though I dislike the Mandoification of SW she does write thier POV very good)

 

I am extremely worried with how she will deal with the Jedi. I've heard she has stated that she simply hates them. How can you write a character that you hate? And I am also worried tremendously about continuity. She seems, from interviews I have read, to have no regard for any other star wars material that is not her own. Also I am afraid there will be WAY too much Boba. But I have only read Odds in Insider, so can people tell me what some of her strong and weak points are with her writing style.

 

Karen doesn't hate the Jedi, if anything I think her dislike comes from an in-universe perspective. IIRC, she didn't like how the Jedi acted and were all high and mighty. If you read Hard Contact or Triple Zero (great writing, no matter if you hate or like the Mandos), the viewpoint is explained through her characters. In fact, she has a couple of main Jedi characters of her own that are portrayed in a very favorable light (not to mention those Vader stories she did).

As for continuity, she says she doesn't read much fiction. That doesn't mean she doesn't pay attention to detail and previous plots. She's no Luceno when it comes to in-universe knowledge, but she has the Holocron, her fellow authors, and the advice of all of Lucas Licensing to draw upon. Not to mention that even though she dislikes reading fiction, she did read Dark Nest to prepare for writing LOTF.

Too much Boba? I don't think that'll be a huge problem. Do you complain about too much Jacen or too much Luke? Since we don't know Boba's involvement in LOTF, it's hard to tell what will happen, but if he gets a cover, he must be important to the storyline. I trust Karen to not fill every page with him. Ben, Luke, Jacen, and Lumiya will all still be there.

And her writing style? I love it. One of the best I've seen next to Stover and Allston. They made a great choice signing her on for this, IMO.