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ST Openly-gay characters in Star Wars thread: READ WARNING IN OPENING POST

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Ghost, Feb 26, 2016.

  1. Birkendoc

    Birkendoc Chosen One star 4

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    A free and democratic country has nothing to do with a forum. The First Amendment protects speech against persecution and prosecution from the government. It has nothing to do about the rules of decorum and conduct for a private forum.

    Nothing is being "forced" and there is no "secret gay agenda."

    Oscar Isaac has stated he'd love to play Poe as gay. Whether or not that becomes a reality is yet to be seen. But I'm sorry if that offends your sensibilities. But if the story group wants to put forward a gay character, it is not up for an up or down vote from the fanbase.

    I'm sorry if a gay character would ruin he entire franchise for you to the point that you would turn your back on it. That is your choice. But for others, they will definitely welcome it.
     
  2. Wildcatbarry

    Wildcatbarry Jedi Master star 4

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    Star Wars is about - Good vs. Evil.

    Lets just go with that, leave everything else alone and the rest will fall in place.

    Heroes will triumph.
     
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  3. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    This exactly.

    There is no free speech on a privately-owned message board.

    Homophobic comments are considered hate speech, which is a violation of the first rule under Rules of the JC forums.
     
  4. cerealbox

    cerealbox Force Ghost star 6

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    And yet Carrie has joked before that this is the ending she wants.
     
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  5. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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    Where did he say that?
     
  6. Birkendoc

    Birkendoc Chosen One star 4

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    Here's where he discussed it: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/20...ameron-is-disney-brave-enough-to-make-him-ga/

    Not the source article, but it has the Ellen interview where he states how he played Poe in TFA.
     
  7. SOLARISENSHI

    SOLARISENSHI Jedi Knight star 1

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    First of all thank you for making this thread I was going to actually make this on my own but I was curious if someone to do it first... is an openly gay guy in general you normally feel very comfortable when you hear and/or see people coming out and real life which Star Wars is a galaxy far far away and a long time ago for that matter having an openly gay fabulous Jedi or Sith unfortunately wouldn't fit the bill of what Star Wars is or at least has become that's not to say that a character couldn't have a openly gay sexuality and a romantic relationship with a man or woman or transgender for that means I pretty much think Star Wars is trying to stay in the safe Zone whatever that means for the franchise but that means no gay characters it'd be incredible if they found a way to make Luke gay or Rey but then appealing to the young child demographic would be much more difficult not impossible even though there's nothing wrong with being a homosexual it would be like leaving out the fact that I have brown eyes number one it would have to be a main character Sith or Jedi and other than that it would be a tremendous push Star Wars would definitely unfortunately lose fans and the haters would have something else to argue over unfortunately it's not that I don't want to happen at all that's not what I'm saying I'm just saying that it'd be incredibly difficult to implement within the franchise those are just my thoughts feel free to agree or disagree
     
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  8. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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    Luke gay? eh I would personally hate that!,..


    Plz use periods....... :3
     
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  9. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Jedi Master star 4

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    Nah morel likely Finn, Poe than Luke. I personally think stormpiolt is perfect. Stormpiolt all the way.
     
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  10. Birkendoc

    Birkendoc Chosen One star 4

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    Stormpilot would be awesome. The chemistry is there. They banter well too. I really want this to be canon.
     
  11. cerealbox

    cerealbox Force Ghost star 6

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    Not for me. But that's only because I see Poe as a big brother figure to Finn (he even nicknamed him) and potentially Rey.
    Poe's way too mature and worldly to be in any relationship with Finn or Rey. It would be like Han going with Luke.

    Leia was mature for her age, that's why the Han and Leia relationship worked.
     
  12. WookieeRage

    WookieeRage Force Ghost star 5

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  13. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That was one heck of a run-on sentence. :p
     
  14. JabbatheHumanBeing

    JabbatheHumanBeing Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Sounds like you're the one that wishes to impose your standards on others, not the other way around.
     
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  15. Birkendoc

    Birkendoc Chosen One star 4

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    Really sad that someone would boycott the franchise over a gay character. After all, isn't the GFFA all about the "little guy" getting their chance to be heard.
     
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  16. JabbatheHumanBeing

    JabbatheHumanBeing Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Huh? I was addressing Moroska, who was being openly homophobic, not you.
     
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  17. Birkendoc

    Birkendoc Chosen One star 4

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    I responded to the wrong post an amended. My bad, Jabba! Sorry about that. Was trying to agree with you.
     
  18. JabbatheHumanBeing

    JabbatheHumanBeing Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Nothing to apologize for! Simple mistake I've made myself a few times.
     
  19. Master of None

    Master of None Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't care if they bring in gay characters as long as it fits the story line. There is already enough who, what, where, when to deal with.
    Luke being gay I would not like.
    . Klyo, Finn, Phasma, Rey, Poe or whomever, IDC let their freak flag fly as long as it FITS THE STORYLINE!!
     
  20. {Quantum/MIDI}

    {Quantum/MIDI} Force Ghost star 5

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    Paying your respects to a certain demographic, and showing them how they exist in you're own vision, isn't quite that difficult(unless you have a major bias).

    It matters not the sexuality....In this day in age, it's now understandable that differences in mindsets and ideals do not determine who you are. If Poe turned out to be queer, it would make no difference if Finn was straight. The difference is how it's viewed upon. Is it viewed upon as different? It is the same? If it's same, you'll see a non-formulaic representation, while respecting that there is a difference. If it's seen as different altogether, like a different race or specimen, there will be consequences and the representation will be skewed.

    All there needs to be is the former, not the latter.

    Disney should know which is which...
     
  21. WookieeRage

    WookieeRage Force Ghost star 5

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    Why does it have to be part of the storyline at all? That's kind of working backwards when, as you said, there is enough who, what, where and when to deal with. Adding a storyline that diverts the attention from the main story just mucks up the overall story more. Why does it have to bring attention to the fact that the character is gay. It shouldn't be that way, the character would just be openly gay and that would be the end of it. Han and Leia's relationship didn't take away from the main storyline of the OT, why can't a gay relationship work the same way? I don't know if I worded that right, but I'm pro-gay characters in star wars. Bottom line, it doesn't have to be a big deal at all...
     
  22. Master of None

    Master of None Jedi Master star 4

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    I agree and I guess that is what I was trying to say...not make a big deal out of it, let it be natural and not forced.
     
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  23. {Quantum/MIDI}

    {Quantum/MIDI} Force Ghost star 5

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    No pun intended yes?
     
  24. JabbatheHumanBeing

    JabbatheHumanBeing Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Right. Why does the OT bring attention to the fact that Han and Leia are heterosexual? Those who are categorically opposed to openly gay characters in Star Wars are applying a double-standard, plain and simple.
     
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  25. WookieeRage

    WookieeRage Force Ghost star 5

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    JabbatheHumanBeing
    The OT came out during a time where homosexuality wasn't accepted by a lot, so they probably didn't think about it as a double standard. I don't know, an openly gay relationship IMO should be received no differently than a heterosexual relationship.