ST Openly-gay characters in Star Wars thread: READ WARNING IN OPENING POST

But why should your "core morals" dictate what appears on screen. I've always thought of GFFA as a more highly evolved society. After all, it isn't just humans living together but multiple sentient species. And it is not a society where an orthodox interpretation of an Abrahamic religion is the predominant faith belief.

Rather in that universe there is very strong and overreaching theme: There is no life, there is no death. There is only the Force.

That said, there is no separate Force for the straight white denizens and a separate one for the Bothans or Bith. One Force, and that was quite intentional theme.

I too am married. Two children at that who are growing in their love for the Star Wars universe. And I have taught them right from wrong. They have a strong moral code that we have helped them develop: don't lie, don't steal, don't hurt others, help where you can, etc.

But one of the things we as a family also instilled is a sense of tolerance and understanding that we are not just a white, middle class, heteronormative, Christian world. And that diversity is expected and should be appreciated.

My ten year old thought Stormpilot was a thing when she saw TFA. She didn't see it as "wrong." She saw two guys that clearly had strong emotional attachments for each other. And she saw nothing wrong with that.

 

A husband should protect and love his wife.

Good vs Evil.

Anakin loved his wife.

He wanted to protect her.

When he became a "Master of Evil" then he hurt his wife.

I previously stated - "Love thy neighbor as thyself".


(EDIT: EHT Just realized I may have broken rule #2 on the opening page. My apologies. I will abide by rule #2 with future postings.)

 

FYI, intolerance of intolerance is not bigotry, so there's no irony there.

Bigotry is intolerance of people for being who they are at birth. And yes, wanting to keep homosexual characters out of Star Wars is intolerance of people for being who they are at birth. So yes, that's bigotry.

And this isn't a PC post. It's simply a post identifying a truth that you'd rather obscure behind euphemisms.

 

Also, last time Leia didn't need protecting either. She's the one who rescued Han in ROTJ.

Rey doesn't need protection for that matter.

Last time I checked, it was Star Wars, not Leave it to Beaver. And it isn't the 1950s either.

 

About Finn...i watched the first movie and there is no way that Finn can be gay. Unless they will portray him as bi.
Nothing of this is not normal. That is not the question however.
But who will think it is entertaining? Could i attach emotionally to his character? a romance (and it would be forced after what we saw on the movie) between him and Poe? or if someone decide to turn Luke gay as they are going to do with Sulu, could i attach, care, about his character?
Am i forced to felt anything? to feel the same emotions that i feel in a relationship between a man and a girl?
I am sure that some people probably would like...and that is ok. Yes it is ok.
But most people, as me, would not.
Most people are not gay. I hope that there is nothing wrong with this too.
I do not care about two man (or two girls ofc) having a relationship. There is nothing wrong to it.
But please do not make things feel forced.
Do not ruin established characters just to make a point.
I love that film pretty woman Julia Roberts and R.Gere..would i love it if Julia Roberts was replaced by an actor instead? No...because i would not feel attached. Is there something wrong about it? no.
Am i being homophobic? ofcourse not.
And that is the only thing i am talking about...Entertainment.
Please do make gay relation ships on movies, tv shows, etc.....it is part of life.
Just do not impose them.

 

Han asked Chewbacca to protect Leia. "The Princess. You have to protect her." Han deferred that duty due to the circumstance he was faced with - Carbon Freeze.

As I stated above Star Wars has always been about the morals of Good vs Evil.

It is good for children to see their fathers love and honor their mothers as husband and wife and visa versa.

Kylo Ren\ Ben Solo didn't get to see Han loving and honoring Leia.

My wife can do pretty much all the same tasks I can. However, there is one area my wife and I differ - she birthed children. I can't do that. I honor her for that. If that is being sexist then so be it.

We have ruffled one another's feathers; two wrongs don't make a right.

I'll just have to humble myself and conclude that we should agree to disagree. Then (I) bow out of this conversation before it further escalates into the realm of Ban Land.

 

*needs to walk away from this thread before head explodes or I get banned*

 

Wow I'm sorry but you all need to chill out. There's no need to get that triggered over a discussion. I knew that this would eventually happen in this thread but seriously relax. No one's going to take you seriously if you act like that.

 

Trust me, most grown women cringe at being called "girls." We cringe even more when it's mansplained why we shouldn't be offended by it.

 

Funny, I wanted to calmly discuss the possibility of openly-gay characters in Episode VIII or IX, but seeing as how easily triggered certain people on this thread are, I think I'll pass.

Edit: I also believe it's disrespectful when women are called "girls" and it reminds me of when African American men were referred to as "boy". Not a fan of it.

 

Please don't remind me...There was this one SW book I read that made the gay characters so meta and just jagged. I think it was aftermath...

Claudia Grey is a much better candidate for writing characters of demographics...I feel if we were to have more gay characters, let it be her that writes them.

 

I'd say both are good examples. You must show flaws of the consequences of love in itself...Or things will become blinded..

DP

 

You are twisting my statements.

Where did you come up with girl as I did not state that term?

Your belief is that male\male relationship is acceptable. Then why is man\girl of legal age unacceptable? Are you discriminating against the age two people can fall in love? Where's the consistency? Where do you draw line for what is acceptable and what is unacceptable?

I'd like to make it clear for the record that this statement is insinuating things I did not say nor do I believe.

My wife can do things I can't. Woman and man were made different for a reason I honor her differences that exceed and surpass my capabilities.

Spoiler: I can only state the facts here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_fertilization[/spoiler]


You can answer my questions above or not. It is your free will to decide.

I am stepping away from this conversation.

 

Everyone play nice in here... discuss the topic, not other posters.

 

Thats the one with Leia right? Grey's book? That one was great. Forgot about them for a bit...Loved those characters,

It was some other dude who wrote a canon SW story.....Didn't like his style or portrayal...

 

Damnit....I take that back....Okay Aftermath...You "slightly" win this round...I loved Sinjir.

Damnit Anikanfan, stop making me love Aftermath!

 

Quite sad too. Maybe I need to re-read aftermath again....Writing wasn't something I liked at all./

He was too much for me buuuuut Sinjir is quite worth a read again soooo....

I'll be back in a bit until I stop gushing for Sinjir

 

anakinfansince1983
1.) I regret to inform you that I never used the terms "girl" nor "boy".

2.) I coach football for children ages 6-11 yrs. We have young ladies on our squads that can best most the young men. We treat them no differently - same exercises, drills and conditioning.

3.) Padme - strong and independent. Leia - strong and independent. Rey - strong and independent. These are excellent character attributes and I love they are portrayed by strong women. My wife also has these attributes.