Senate Prepping for US Autocracy

Absolutely nothing about my sentiments on this issue is trolling or gleeful. I have to live in this **** hole country and am directly affected by changes in its healthcare policy. You are not, and are abusing your mod powers to troll me and insult a whole group of people on top of it.

But yes how dare regular users utilize, you know, reporting functions intended to stop people from harassing and trolling them.

 

Donald Trump is going to be President. Every single day, every major news panel will be blanketed with absolutely awful corrupt, stupid people bickering vainly with one another. And people will have no choice to listen, because their arguments about whether Jewish space lasers or federal weather machines caused a natural disaster will set national policy.

We rub one another the wrong way occasionally. But the people that visit this site are basically nice. Can we not have bitter arguments over minor things among ourselves, too?

 

Just say sorry is it really that complicated?

anyway speaking of autocracy Trump apparently wants to court martial a bunch of generals on treason charges. So that’s fun

 

Ah why am I even getting involved and hoping humans will be better. Really my fault if you think about it

 

To say the least, this administration is going to suck.

 

All about myself? I posted that most people on SSRIs need them according to doctors, with no reference to myself. Your response was to make a personal attack on me about "guess he'll take away your benzos" which is an inflammatory personal attack.

Seriously what world are you living in.

 

Now your just trolling and your pretty bad at it to

 

I don’t think that anyone is concerned by the idea of more rehabilitation centres for people with drug addiction.

The issue is that he’s tying people with addiction to hard drugs, opioids, etc, to people with long term use of SSRIs, and then inviting the latter to facilities which are designed for rehabilitation. This implies that the long term use of both of them are similar, when one is a self-destructive self-medication of harmful drugs and one is doctor prescribed medication approved for use to treat mental health conditions.

Whilst I don’t think it’s likely to become mandatory for people on SSRI’s to go to these facilities (for many reasons), the fact he’s tied them together in this way is naturally going to be concerning for people prescribed that medication under his jurisdiction. It shows how he views people on prescribed medication for mental health - he views them in a similar way to people with a drug addiction, and he views SSRIs as similar to opioids in their negative impact.

He also has oversight over the industries responsible for advances in those type of prescribed medications which will actually make them better for people to take long term - his main interest is to simply get people off them by sending them to an ‘organic farm’ which isn’t a sensible approach at all.

It also reeks of rich trust fund brain - how are most people able to just go to a farm to 4 years?

 

Just as importantly, there's already a lot of stigma around mental health. Many people are very hesitant about starting medication even in the current environment. How do you think those people will react if the official department of Health and Human Services starts suggesting that this is no better than being a heroin fiend strung out on the corner?

 

Respectfully, given the very real concern of what RFK and Trump have said they wish to do, the fact is that even though it is tempting to dismiss them as liars, they have shown a very real inclination to act on their worst impulses this time. We know for instance that stocks for private prisons are soaring and Arkansas is building new ones now.

While I have no doubt some blue states will try to keep things as normal as possible, many of us recall what it's like if the ACA goes away and pre-existing conditions are brought back to deny insurance. If that happens, the cost of medication will skyrocket. Even with the ACA, many struggle with the costs of absurdly expensive medication- something that Biden administration was working hard to combat- and which Trump is likely to roll back.

So to answer your question, Trump is coming for the meds. If his policies are enacted, medication will become harder for people who need it to get. I say this with a family member who is currently struggling deeply with bipolar disorder to the point of being homeless. It's very hard now even with the ACA and the safety nets of unemployment, social security and disability- but when Trump sends people like RFK to destroy these agencies- which are already drastically understaffed and underfunded, it will be rendered useless. This was essentially the case when DeVos was in charge of Education- nothing worked.

If RFK were to implement these forced rehabilitation programs for instance, it would not help and could in fact further exacerbate problems for those suffering from mental illness. While treatment for opioids and other drug related matters is something we crucially need, without the ACA and other safety nets, these people will be tossed out as soon as possible and these facilities will be understaffed and poorly run. I've seen what patients on medicaid receive now. US Healthcare remains a business when it should be a human right. So how do we expect a businessman to treat something that drains many US resources? Well, if we go by what his nephew said, Trump thinks it's better for some people who are sick to just die.

So, RFK would be putting these patients through a program that won't help, and in fact could make things worse. Because, depending on how it is staffed, the staff could be completely unqualified for what they are dealing with. Then they also won't be able to afford their medication. That's the core issue.

Don't think it can happen? Try getting certain prescriptions for pain. Doctors will flat out refuse to write certain prescriptions for people because insurance won't cover it and considers it drug seeking. Imagine if RFK did the same with these meds. There are a lot of legitimate concerns here and thinking it cannot happen is folly when it comes to Trump and his team. There is no low they cannot reach.

 

No, I heard you. You're question was why are more rehabs for drug addition referred to as "wellness farms" a bad idea. I just told you: because they won't be run properly to treat just opioid addition.

Additionally, given the current focus on cutting spending not increasing it, it is likely management will be outsourced to a business and these centers will very likely be poorly staffed and by unqualified and/or poorly trained people and instead of treating the two vastly different diseases, they will be used as a "catch all" for any kind of "addiction". I base this all on the state of our current centers managed by businesses.

RFK has, by his own past comments, lumped all people together in one group. And he is arguing that the dependence someone with mental illness has on their medication is comparable to that of an addict who is taking harmful drugs or abusing prescription drugs. This is incredibly reductive and dangerous thinking. And lest we forget, this type of thinking by RFK regarding public health has resulted in many deaths already.

The treatments for the two are also vastly different here. One involves medication that people depend on to stay regular so they may function. The other is treating an illness that often has other underlying problems and getting them off their addictive substance.

So, again, rehabs for opioid addiction are needed, but the idea of adding other groups who do not belong in these "wellness farms" is the danger.

 

All this ^


It boils down to RFK's stances being pseudoscience, completely without backing by any studies. It's just one crackpot's conspiracy theories vs. Decades of research and practice.

 

It'll be the mental health approach of Pull Yourself Together / Man the **** up, with sides of raw milk and roadkill meat.

There's a major strand in the "wellness" industry that everyrhing can be fixed. If you don't get better then you just don't want to. Utter bollocks but lots of people go for it.

 

Might as well have Gwenyth Paltrow running HHS.

 

Honestly she might be slightly better which is still terrible

 

Every American gets a free scented candle!

 

I have said before that in recent years, my mom has become anti-VAX only against the Covid vaccine (only for her kids and not herself or my dad)

but she has always been into goop and crystals and the like. Although she was also pro vaccine. She just doesn’t want us getting any of the Covid boosters. She had no problem with me getting my original Covid vaccine or my flu shot she even asked me like 3 weeks ago if I had already gotten it.

 

And it smells like arse.

 

yeah, but whose arse?

 

the aristocrats, obviously