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ST Prequel References In The ST

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Juliemcc81, Dec 21, 2019.

  1. MarcJordan

    MarcJordan Force Ghost star 4

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    Excellent post!

    ROTS

    Bail Organa: “What’s going on here?”
    Stormtrooper: “There’s been a rebellion”

    Palpatine: “Let your death be the final word in the story of Rebellion”

    To Rey representing all of the Jedi.

    MJ
     
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  2. StartCenterEnd

    StartCenterEnd Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I also just realized how the accusation of “traitor!” Is a running motif through all three trilogies.

    Obi Wan calls Dooku a traitor in AOTC.

    Mace and Palpatine call each other traitors in ROTS.

    Vader accuses Leia being part of the rebel alliance and a traitor in ANH.

    Kylo calls Finn a traitor in TFA.

    Phasma calls Finn a traitor in TLJ
     
  3. MarcJordan

    MarcJordan Force Ghost star 4

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    TPM

    Qui Gon: "Even if you succeed, it's a hard life"


    Two experienced Jedi.

    Before it happens.

    Mace: "I think it is time we informed the Senate that our ability to use the Force has diminished". Yoda decides that it will be counter productive and make it worse. "Hard to see the Darkside"

    Anakin to Mace : "It's not the Jedi way"

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    After it happened.


    Luke: "It's time for the Jedi to end"

    Luke in the past, later realizes within a moment, that it's not the Jedi way.
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    Course correction,

    Yoda tells Luke: Lost Ben Solo you did. Lose Rey we must not.

    After it happened.


    TROS

    Luke Skywalker : "Confronting fear, it is the destiny of the Jedi."


    MJ
     
  4. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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  5. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    Its hard to say what really was a reference and what was just a similar coincidence. Some are more obvious then others
     
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  6. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    I think the Sith Cultists are actually a personification of the dead Sith Lord souls within Palpatine. There are moments in the PT when Palpatine might be seeing them but the audience doesn't. It's especially noticeable during the fight with Yoda. There's even moments when Palpatine gestures as if he's standing before a full senate, not rows of empty pods.

    And yes, the senate scenes with the full senate mirror the packed gallery on Exegol.
     
  7. Darkstrider

    Darkstrider Jedi Master star 4

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    TRoS is an anagram of RotS.
     
  8. MarcJordan

    MarcJordan Force Ghost star 4

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    AOTC: As you can see my Jedi powers are far beyond yours. Now back down.

    TROS: “You are nothing. A scavenger girl is no match for the power in me.

    MJ
     
  9. MarcJordan

    MarcJordan Force Ghost star 4

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    AOTC

    Poggle the Lesser : “Let the executions begin!”

    TROS

    Palpatine: “The ritual begins!”

    Cheers!

    MJ
     
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  10. ScreamingWoman2019

    ScreamingWoman2019 Jedi Master star 4

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    Palpatine didn't know about the dyad until the end. Also, he didn't know about those jedi talking to Rey.
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    A dyad:
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    They disappeared a year before Ben Solo did, and -like him- never reappeared.
     
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  11. StartCenterEnd

    StartCenterEnd Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    “R2! Have you heard? I’m going with Mistress Rey on her very first mission!”

    R2 goes with Anakin on his very first mission in AOTC. “This is my first assignment on my own. I am (afraid) too. Don’t worry we have R2 with us!”
     
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  12. obi-arin-kenobi

    obi-arin-kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Anakin Sweep Padme off her feet.

    Kylo Sweep Rey off her feet.
     
  13. MarcJordan

    MarcJordan Force Ghost star 4

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    "Thank you" The reluctant turners. Making a deal with the devil.
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    MJ
     
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  14. MarcJordan

    MarcJordan Force Ghost star 4

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    They fly now?
    "Grandson" of a gun!
    ;)
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    Yes, the original template started it all.
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    Cheers!

    MJ
     
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  15. MarcJordan

    MarcJordan Force Ghost star 4

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    Get ready....

    Before

    AOTC

    Old Republic days with a Senate.

    “The Loyalist Committee has arrived” - Loyal to the Republic (at that time) Against creating a military .
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    Notice the two Sith ornaments on Palpatine’s desk .


    After

    TROS

    “A common emblem of Sith Loyalists”

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    I believe the rule was passed by the Senate of the Old Republic.

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    Palpatine you sly fox!

    Cheers!

    Mj
     
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  16. MarcJordan

    MarcJordan Force Ghost star 4

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    Who is the real serpent?
    Palpatine?

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    Or the deadly serpent vs Palpatine grand daughter?

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    PS.
    Yes, yes, I know I'm stretching but making a point ;)

    Cheers!

    MJ
     
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  17. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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  18. Darth Megatronus

    Darth Megatronus Jedi Knight star 3

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    Anakin uses a lightsaber. Kylo Ren uses a lightsaber.
     
  19. MarcJordan

    MarcJordan Force Ghost star 4

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    TPM

    I will not condone a course of action that will lead us to war. (That's what Palpatine wants but Padme is meddling)
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    TROS

    All you want is for me to hate, but I won't. (That's what Palpatine wants but Rey is meddling)

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    Cheers!

    MJ
     
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  20. Darth Megatronus

    Darth Megatronus Jedi Knight star 3

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    There’s nothing that explicitly connects that to Padme’s dialogue in TPM. Luke also says “I will not fight in ROTJ. How do you know it’s not a callback to that?
     
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  21. StartCenterEnd

    StartCenterEnd Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    “I saw my mother. She’s suffering, Padme. I saw her as clearly as I see you now.”

    “I saw his future! As clearly as I’m seeing you, just the shape of it but solid and clear!”
     
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  22. StartCenterEnd

    StartCenterEnd Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    “I wonder why it didn’t show up in the analysis archives.”

    “those analysis droids only focus on symbols!”

    “Sir we’ve had this analyzed, it comes from the Midean system, Paesanna, Firbidden valley”

    this is a connection to ANH but the conference room scenes in ANH and TROS illustrate how Kylo has succeeded where Vader failed. Vader is still a stooge of the emperor and has to listen to his cronies and obeys when Tarkin orders him to stop choking Motti and is clearly just a bodyguard presence while Ren controls the room and chokes anyone he likes and everyone answers to him. He killed Snoke, took over the First Order and attained top power.


    Edit: one more, a connection between ROTS and TROS. The Jedi have to essentially end the war by capturing or killing General Grievous According to Palpatine. The Sith/Kylo have to capture or kill Rey to effectively win the war according to Palpatine. Stormtroopers on threadwheel bike chase after Rey like Obi Wan chases after Grievous who is escaping in a wheel bike that also has a threadwheel.The stormtrooper bike jumps over a cliff like Grievous bike does. Obi Wan kills Grievous and “ends” the war but only enables the next phase of Palpatines plan. Kylo fails or chooses not to kill Rey foiling Palpatines plan.
     
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  23. MarcJordan

    MarcJordan Force Ghost star 4

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    Good question. You can take it that way too and disregard this. I chose such , due to what I consider to be being part of a nine chapter arc.

    TPM is the true beginning of SW and Palpatine faces off with Padme believing that she's a naive and young that he can manipulate the senate, to bully their way to create chaos in the Republic. And it did. Since he's also from Naboo he brilliantly created a tug of war. I like this as in my view GL made such a style of story to show even a woman are intelligent, brave and strong yet Sidious still has the upper hand;typical Palpatine.But Padme is a clear threat to him. I love that.

    In the middle the OT again, a woman Leia is this. Vader infact says in connection "so you have a twin sister" . The female may seem like a pushover but they are not. Luke goes ballistic as he needs to protect her again, as if Leia is weak. But he does say "you have always been strong". Sidious/Palpatine cheers him on. Same dictator enjoying conflict!

    Now the ST, Palpatine has a grandchild, happens to be a woman, he realizes she's no pushover and pits son of Leia and her to battle out, but the plan fails due to the Dyad and best of all it was Leia he blames for messing up the plan. Nice connect to the OT, Vader thinks Leia will just give in with Palpatine cheering that, then it is Palpatine undone by Leia "the princess of Alderaan has disrupted my plan". Then it is Rey who faces him and claims her parents were strong to protect her from him. Naturally Palpatine getting pretty fed up demands that it was weak. Always trying to manipulate even if the opposition is actually strong in love and it doesn't correlate with Palpatine's hatred in his nature.

    So, in a way three women, seem to scupper his plans. Love that.

    Cheers!

    MJ
     
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  24. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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  25. MarcJordan

    MarcJordan Force Ghost star 4

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    No wonder both scenes start this way...check it out...

    AOTC
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    TROS

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    Bonus, you can thank me later (or JJ) ;)

    And just before Shmi was found...


    Nightfall...Jawas

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    And just before the sabers were buried...

    Day break....Jawas

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    Mind blown? :cool:
    Cheers!

    MJ