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ST Rey & Kylo Ren in Episode IX

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Sforza, Dec 13, 2017.

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  1. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    Is that from a Lucasfilm property? Or a fan creation?
     
  2. Diminished Comet

    Diminished Comet Jedi Knight star 3

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    It's from the new Hux comic

    [​IMG]
     
  3. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    What is happening in this comic? Weird. Who is that old guy? Hux is with Kylo Ren here?
     
  4. JoJoPenelli

    JoJoPenelli Chosen One star 6

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    Basically a kylux fanfic :D
     
  5. Diminished Comet

    Diminished Comet Jedi Knight star 3

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    This guy is from Alderaan. He was stranded here during the OT years - Hux and Kylo have been stranded too. Kylo has been injured (saving Hux ironically) now Hux is using Kylo's lineage to get this guy to help them, because he had ties with House Organa
     
  6. ForceGhostPrincessLeia

    ForceGhostPrincessLeia Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Why woobify an evil, murderous, supreme leader Kylo?
    More like ew ew.
     
  7. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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  8. Diminished Comet

    Diminished Comet Jedi Knight star 3

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    Just before TFA
     
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  9. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    Anything else interesting in it?
     
  10. 2Cleva

    2Cleva Chosen One star 5

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    Comics trying to follow vein of movie. Nothing official about Kylo being that soft before TLJ.
     
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  11. Diminished Comet

    Diminished Comet Jedi Knight star 3

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    I think the most interesting thing is that Hux seems to know so much about Kylo being Ben Solo and the history of his family.
     
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  12. JoJoPenelli

    JoJoPenelli Chosen One star 6

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    Calling Kylo a “baby” is used to mock Kylo haters through hyperbole.

    Not sure said Kylo fans are aware just how many fans have made straight-up serious attempts at justifying Kylo’s actions (Nuremberg-style), though. So they might think it’s mocking hyperbole but it certainly doesn’t come off as such. Really not very effective.
     
  13. ForceGhostPrincessLeia

    ForceGhostPrincessLeia Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Eh, I don't even see anything "uWu" in the comic. Evil dude passed out, cool, it's unfortunate he's going to wake up...
     
  14. 2Cleva

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    IDK. The big bad guy passing out? Different class of villains I guess.
     
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  15. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    From the sounds of it he will selflessly sacrifice himself to stop Sidious and protect Rey.

    Can’t wait to see the old Ben Solo emerge before the end. We’ve only seen glimpses of who he was before he let the dark side in so far.

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  16. JoJoPenelli

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    Sounds reasonable to me. My first theory re Kylo’s fate would be redemption and death through noble self-sacrifice.
     
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  17. Ancient Whills

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    Didn't we already see death by self-sacrifice though? That was Anakin's story who was literally living on life support and only kept going through hatred and self-loathing. Kylo is not that far gone and LFL emphasized how Kylo not being Darth Vader is the whole point of his character. Therefore, I see a different ending for him. The question is what would be Rey's role in it since she is our main protagonist and what effect will it have on her character development?
     
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  18. Darth_Bertie

    Darth_Bertie Force Ghost star 6

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    Not sure how things having been done before is an argument for them not to happen again. Death Stars, FO the Resistance, Jakku, Palpatine... The ST has more OT rehashed content than new ideas.

    Not sure either how Kylo is not as far gone as Vader. He no longer has a larger evil above himself to justify FO's evil actions. And he killed his father. Both things are worse than what Anakin did.

    Any ending that does not include his death would seem too benevolent. Not to mention, KK refer to future content after the ST without mentioning Kylo, the cast keep saying this movie feels like the end and Driver does not seem too interested in SW tbh...
     
  19. ForceGhostPrincessLeia

    ForceGhostPrincessLeia Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well, Kylo has to be redeemed, because it happened before, but he can't die, because it happened before.
    At least that is what I have been told ad nauseum. Not sure who came up with those arbitrary rules, but it's apparently set in stone.
     
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  20. devilinthedetails

    devilinthedetails Fiendish Fanfic & SWTV Manager, Tech Admin star 6 Staff Member Administrator

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    It's going to be a lot harder to sell a redeemed Kylo that doesn't die self-sacrificially if redemption is the end goal. I hope TROS is prepared to meet that challenge if that's the route they choose to go with his character. Of course, if Kylo is not Vader, it's possible the end game of his character will be that despite Rey (for some reason) wanting to see him redeemed, he won't be redeemed. Maybe the lesson Rey is supposed to learn is not to look to heroes with special bloodlines to save her and the galaxy, because she has everything she needs to succeed as heroine despite being born a "nothing" who "comes from nothing" as Kylo so charmingly puts it.
     
  21. ForceGhostPrincessLeia

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    Well, SW was full of Wizard of Oz parallels. Just like Dorothy didn't actually need the (fake) wizard to go home, the power was in her all along!
     
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  22. devilinthedetails

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    @ForceGhostPrincessLeia I'll know my theory is right if Rey starts wearing ruby shoes or saying things like, "There's no place like home." ;)
     
  23. Ancient Whills

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    If Kylo dies in IX, I'll accept it just like I accepted Anakin's, though I think death after redemption is like taking the easy way out. I much prefer atonement stories because it shows reformed villains actually dealing with the consequences of their actions and how they develop as characters. Not much you can do when they're dead.

    Also I don't think "the end" necessarily means "death" for the legacy child of the Skywalker family. I'm expecting the movie to end like a fairytale, the expanded universe could deal with the "atonement" part if he redeems himself toward the end of the movie.
     
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  24. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    I agree. lets not underestimate the expanded universe stuff that will follow.
     
  25. ForceGhostPrincessLeia

    ForceGhostPrincessLeia Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah, let's wrap up this saga once and for all, with "To be continued..."
     
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