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Iella has always been Corran Horn's age or thereabouts. Norra is at least ten to fifteen years older. If Iella was the mother of Temmin, she'd only be between 8 and 10 when she had him. Norra and Iella are completely separate characters. Just like Ken and Kenth Hamner.

 

No idea. I think when I originally came up with the headcanon I went with Norra's age over Iella's to account for the age of her son.

Assuming we take the Sinrebirth approach of redating Aftermath to the year of the Emperor's second death (11aby), then Temmin was therefore born in 5bby. If we're generous and say that Norra/Iella was around 25 when her son was born, then that would put her birthdate around 30bby--about Han's age, and therefore ten years older than Corran Horn if we go with @Noash_Retrac 's assumption. In Aftermath, she would be in her early fourties. I think that the artwork on the Wook makes her look a little older than that, but it's a good ballpark estimate to start.

 

I hadn't thought of that, that makes sense, her upbringing was totally different from that of a Sith Lord, but even then he is also contentious regarding Jerec's viability as a Sith, and there have been Sith Lords under Palpatine that were at first trained to never question him and be more of an assassin, like Maul, albeit in a less pronounced way, but like you said, the effort might not even be worth it, and after all, once he returned to life, he didin't even consider turning Mara to his side even with her extended training.

 

Legends Maul was less of an actual Sith apprentice, to be fair; Plagueis was still alive when he was being trained by Palpatine and I'm pretty sure that (like in canon) Palps was already courting Dooku before Naboo. But even then he still had a Sith ideology baked into him from the start, so I'd count him amid the likes of Sedriss, Droga and the other Dark Side elites in that regard.

If I were to list the top-ten people after Vader that I'd think Palpatine would that go for as apprentices it would probobly be...
Luke
An unwounded Starkiller
Maul's clone from Resurrection
Jerec
Cronal
Kadann
Lumiya
Brakiss
Sariss
Sedriss

A'Shared Hett, Quinlan Voss and Kyp Durron would be pretty high up their as well, but he'd need to actually know the first two were still alive and that the third existed (the only reason Cronal and Kadann are lower then Jerec is that, despite their power, both are old men who seem too set in their own Dark Side orthodoxies)

No! I refuse to accept that they are not the same!

 

A considerable number of Jedi do turn to the dark side during the Yuuzhan Vong war. The galaxy at large either doesn't know, doesn't care, or are entirely happy to see these Jedi take more aggressive action against the Vong. The remainder of the Jedi are also reluctant to do anything about this, and continue to fight alongside their fallen compatriots due to wartime necessity.

 

What if Marvel would bring back another of their classic Marvel characters? Shira Brie alias Lumiya?

I'd like to see another take at Shira/Luke in the Rebellion before their fallout and her dark reveal. And it would be fun to see fans debate why she got recanonised before Mara did lol. Anyway, more redheads in SW never can hurt.

Of course she'd not be the LOTF Lumiya.. more her old Marvel self at that point. In part I even thought Qi'ra reminded me somewhat of Lumiya/Shira. I mean.. Shira/Qi'ra rhymes too, eh? And lately she got powerful, influential, skilled and had a dance with Vader. So why not have it end with her being recruited by him after having proven herself to him despite all the shenangians?

 

Drengir are sithspawn - specially, the base species was the neti, mutated with bits and pieces of countless carnivorous plant species across the galaxy, from the syren to the reeksa, tree fisher, gnarltree, and thirstgrass.

A surprising amount of Zygerrians work in HR departments of corporations throughout the galaxy.

Tagge Space was one of the main founders of the Corporate Confederacy, along with the Corporate Sector, the Nemodian Purse Worlds, and some worlds owned by the Mining Guild. While few in number and lacking in manpower even compared to the New Sepratist Union, their economic power allowed them to produced droids and hire mercenaries to be roughly on par with the NSU and New Republic

Also the canon version of Zsinj was a member, defecting with his entire command.

 

A couple of headcanons from the Lego Terrifying Tales special:

Spoiler

-Dean returns to Arkanis only to find out his mother had been killed leaving Dean an orphan. He has nowhere to go, so Poe adopts him as his son.
-OR...Dean's mother is still alive, but she blames the Resistance for the destruction of her shop (the shop was destroyed by the First Order, because they thought she was helping the Resistance). Poe makes it up to her by taking her to the Colossus to work in Yeager's repair shop. She and Yeager fall in love and get married.

 

(1)
There was a time when Sith's Darth names and roles were hereditary. Probably going back to the Exiles themselves in tradition and their unaturally long lives. But with most lineages cut during the Great Hyperspace War and Jedi purging Sith afterwards, that tradition was abandoned and every Sith claimed a new name or title instead of taking on one of the old ones and fulfilling their legacy.

Once actual rebirth, be it via bodyhopping or else ensured longlivety and that one Sith, and his name survived for ages in various bodies. But with that practice and lineage cut short, there were few only who continued similiar traditions. Among the cabal that wanted to rebirth the old ways of a core set of Sith and their names becoming lineages were Revan, Traya, Nihilus and few others. (Hence the quote "There will always be a Darth Traya" or also Rivan taking Revan's name and Revanites trying to preserve his legacy and name).

Basically Sith names were like the Mask and name of Zorro. At first the Exiles ensured their own survival via several bodies... but with that tradition lost, Traya and else tried to install a new set of names to survive no matter if individuals died who wore the name. When no longer the the ghosts installed Sith and gave them names, like Ragnos did for Kun and Quel Droma, future Masters would converse with the Dark Side to find the suiting name for their apprentice.. like when Palpatine did just that for Anakin becoming Vader in ROTS.

But no longer did the Sith take the same old names but variations of them, like Nihilus and Nihl, Revan and Rivan, etc.


(2) In Legends, Lando's son is named Chance. I bet his second name was Lor(e). Chance Lor Calrissian... it was a gag for his precidency campaign.

 

I think lumiya is coming for a recanonised they've done mostly everything else hoojabs are next then we'll see

 

I was surprised they did crying Mountains long before other Marvel comebacks even. And I still wait for a more direct Zeltron arc given some cameos we had in Aphras comics. Nagai and Tof can't hurt either.

But they should leave Lord Valenthyne Farfalla and wooden spaceships to the movies... come on Taika, you direct it, you get to play Farfalla yourself!

 

In the years immediately leading up to 34 ABY the ultranationalist Human League seized control of the government of Corellia with (covert) First Order backing. After the destruction of Hosnian Prime the party's leader (and Kylo Ren's cousin) Thrackan Sal-Suul, openly aligned the system with the First Order (explaining why Corellia seems to have so quickly fallen under First Order control in Resistance Reborn).

@MercenaryAce @Sinrebirth I go with the Corporate Systems being the same thing as the Corporate Sector (their "rising" in the sense that, though they already existed, with the defeat of the Empire their beginning to flex their muscles and exert control over neighboring systems, and the issue with them that is drawing Mothma's attention in Empire's End is the CSA's annexation of the Kalinda system)

Basically...

• Confederacy of Corporate Systems = formal name (a la "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics")
• Corporate Sector = less formal "shorthand" name (a la "Soviet Union")
• Corporate Sector Authority = the confederacy's governmental branch.

The New Separatist Union is actually called the New Confederate Union (being a Clone Wars loyalist Mothma just calls them "Separatists" due to old biases). It arose - in part - as a splinter of the Rebel Alliance formed when various former CIS worlds/personnel who had been aligned with the Rebellion out of necessity during the civil war refused to take part in the forming of the New Republic.

I recently actually had the thought that, if LFL was so inclined, they could easily work Lumiya or Darth Krayt back into canon by having them be Palpatine's apprentice during the post-Vader years who went unseen during TROS. After all...

 

"I am not the real Darth Foul. My name is Antilles. I inherited the mantle from the previous Darth Foul, just as you will inherit it from me. The man I inherited it from was not the real Darth Foul either. His name is Zizbisterling. The real Darth Foul has been retired for fifteen years and living like a king on Pantolomin."

 

General "Duron" from the Star Wars Underworld series (the character that was supposed to be a major figure in the early Rebellion during Lucas' ill-fated show that never saw the light of day) was supposed to be the father of Kyp Durron in the old EU.

No, I will not elaborate.

 

Inspired by an older thread from the In-Depth board: some House of Antilles headcanoning to reconcile the Corellian and Alderaanian Antilles.

Bail Antilles, senator of Alderaan, married the Queen of Alderaan and had three children: Breha, Deara, and Raymus Antilles.

Breha Antilles became involved in a succession crisis with the House of Organa which was eventually resolved by the Jedi Master Jorus C'Baoth. Deara Antilles married into the Metonae family and had one daughter: Corla.

Raymus Antilles was not as attached to Alderaan as much as his sisters were. He married a woman named Zena from Corellia. They had two children: Syal and Wedge. However, their relationship fell apart and Raymus returned to service with his brother-in-law Bail Organa at the end of the Clone Wars. Zena later married a fuel depot serviceman named Jagged, who became Wedge's stepfather. When Zena and Jagged were killed by pirates, Booster Terrik became Wedge's guardian.

Raymus did remarry at some point and had a son named Colton Antilles, named for Raymus's mentor Jeremoch Colton. Colton Antilles was the last registered owner of the droids C-3PO and R2-D2 and served as the first mate aboard the Tantive IV until it was destroyed during the week prior to the Battle of Yavin. Raymus, Colton, and Colton's neice Corla all perished at the hands of the Imperials.

Syal married Soontir Fel, and the rest of that story is history. Wedge, on the other hand, married a pilot named Norra Iella Wessiri. He adopted her son from a previous marriage, Temmin, and together they had two daughters: Syal and Myri. Temmin married fellow pilot Kare Kun prior to the Battle of Starkiller Base. Syal also became a pilot and became engaged to fellow pilot Tiom Rordan, but he was killed by Centerpoint Station.

Syal Antilles was pregnant with Tiom's child before he did. Her child would eventually become the parent of Bail Antilles, one of the leaders of the GFFA during the Sith-Imperial War. His daughter, Ona Antilles, carried on the family business of getting involved with galactic resistance movements.

The only remaining question: who is Henryieta "Corellia" Antilles, the famous xenoarchaeologist? The answer may surprise you: though it is possible that she is tied to the House of Antilles in some fashion, she is actually a Solo. The resemblance is uncanny, after all!

 

This is amazing
In my country we had a well-connected criminal who called his son "Drusius Ingmar" so he could abbreviate his name to "Dr. Ing." (doctor & certified engineer)...

Edit: to add a bit of Legends headcanon that just occurred to me:

At some point between 0-3 ABY there was a huge Imperial sting operation against Black Sun that implicated Xizor - only for Xizor to be fully and very publicly exonerated at the end. From that point on, anyone who publicly suspected Xizor of being a criminal kingpin was on the wrong side of the discourse and officially making a fool of themselves.

This explains the discrepance between Xizor's "Black Sun? Me?! Never!" act in Shadows of the Empire and the fact that in later sources set earlier in the timeline (e.g. Scoundrels, Shadow Games) everyone and their uncle knows that Xizor is Black Sun, to the extent that people go "a Falleen? oh no, must be a Black Sun operation, because Xizor!"

 

I do wonder when Black Sun relocated from TCW headquarters on Mustafar to Coruscant... I mean, looks like they didn't like the neighborhood to Vader's Castle... then again, Vader was a lot on Coruscant, too.

I always suspected an Imperial operation to break up the Shadow Collective early on by targeting Black Sun specifically cause the Hutts were too powerful with their domain and other Syndicates like the Pykes with their Spice running got chased off Kessel anyway when the Empire took over operations during the Solo movie with the arriving Stardestroyer. Hence Black Sun relocated to Coruscant, Pykes got angry especially after the Empire handed a piece of the spice running to the Hutts and Jabba to appease them for intruding into their territory nominally at least like in old Han Solo novels.
The Empire moving against the Pykes probably was done in agreement with Hutts not aiding them and Black Sun got another likewise sweet deal out of it, like Xixor Transport Systems getting the deal to transport stuff to DS2.

Crimson Dawn had it easy picking off the leftovers of the Empire breaking the Shadow Collective, though it existed on in Legends in a weaker form, probably less a full military alliance as it had been and more a loose arrangement between syndicates for they learned that it benefits them all.

 

Snoke was unleashed not because Palpatine needed a proxy for the First Order, he needed a proxy for Ben Solo

Snoke and Ben connected telepathically as a sorta Ben's weird imaginary friend in order for Palpatine to hide his voice and not get anyone on his trail.

Then when Palpatine needed something more physical he made Snoke for Ben to meet in person.

Snoke being a proxy to lead the First Order was just a bonus.

(So basically Ben and Snoke are Calvin and Hobbs, Dark Side addition)

 

I think Snoke was a Clone Trooper at one point or some experiment, one in a million, by the Kaminoans.

In fact, while I don't imagine this to come true, I do imagine that The Bad Batch will somewhat touch on Snoke.

 

This is genius! So Snoke is an imaginary friend that got made real... dang, Ben you should have had an imaginary girlfriend, imagine what you could have gotten!

I imagine the reason Ben did connect so easily and well to Palpatine (pretending to be Snoke) is because he already felt a Dyadic connection to the Palpatine family before Rey even was born. It is the connection both families, Skywalker and Palpatine shared ever since Anakin's inception by the Force before TPM paralell to Sith experiments trying to create the Sith'ari. When Palpatine became godlevel Sith powers, the Force made Anakin... and this family connection between both linages remained till culminating in Ben and Rey.

Also it is creepy to think about it, but Ben Solo could manifest whatever he imagined through the Force and it became real! First Snoke... then later Rey as the daughter of another Snoke-ish Palpa-son.

And it is really interesting how much Han Solo in Ben made this possible, Han Solo's "never tell me the odds" attitude, blind trust and belief without doubt against all odds, which essentially was what made him so lucky, this is exactly what Ben Solo had and could use. He did not need to unlearn like Luke in TESB, he could manifest for he had firm beliefs and an untroubled mind of a child that believed and created what it imagined. But that was also the danger and why outbursts can make huts explode or entire temples.

 

If he was a trooper concept then maybe the one Kylo mentioned to Hux in TFA as discontinued and discarded in favor of kidnapping.

 

I still think that Snoke is a "real" person, but I do like this theory.

Here's my theory: Snoke is a name taken by many people; there are many "Snokes" and this Snoke may have been based on a real person that lived before "our" Snoke was around.

 

To be clear: I do like this theory that Snoke is somewhat of a "imaginary friend" that Palpatine made, but I do like the idea, one that I"ve had for a while, that Snoke is a person that was always lurking in the shadows, like Sifo-Dyas, since he saw the end of the Republic itself.

Snoke was a real person, but the Snoke we see in episodes 7 and 8? Just a former shell, imho, in a way.

But this theory that I've seen on this page of this thread certainly fits well, I think.

I still think that my theory is technically most likely, or some variation of it, but honestly, it sounds just like Palpatine.

 

@ColeFardreamer

Well if you read the Skywalker A Family at War novel it does give the impression Ben and Snoke met telepathically first.