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  1. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    A new headcanon:

    The House of Thul noble family from Alderaan wasn't just an ally of the Sith in the past (TOR MMO) but long before that already held ties to the Sith. One of their family colonies near Sith Space is Thule, their holy land, so to speak, but few know that the family is tied to the settling of Thule and how and why they came into contact with the Sith back then. With the Thul families ties to their secret world lost to history, what remained are conspiracy theories of far away "ultima Thule" and it being a jumping off point to more arcane worlds and hidden places inside the Stygian Caldera and its nightmarish inhabitants along which some Thul offspring should still thrive and exist.
    Some rumors persist that the Thul family was involved in the Killiks activities on Alderaan during TOR MMO, but nobody remembers how in the distant pastt hey even worshipped them and brought together a Killik and the Sith resulting in a Killik Sith Lord (be it a Killik as Sith or a Sith Joiner to the Killik hive mind initiating a new Dark Nest).
    Their legacy would come full circle with latest heir, Raynar Thul becoming Unu Thul when he joined a Nest.

    But the storied history of the Thul family did not start with Sith or Killiks. It began with C.Thul and his interest in the arcane and ancient mythology and his quest to find their true roots and along with it discovered and awoke ancient entities some light, some dark, some beyond both sides wildest dreams and nightmares. His fate is not known after he sired offspring and was lost on some missions leaving the family to his heirs. Some scholars tried to connect him to the first Unu Thul, a highly disfigured human Joiner who lead an ancient Killik Nest but could not be identified. Only conspiracy circles still name him" C.Thul, Unu" or in short "C.Thul.u"!



    Does that make the Nihil then the native and indigenious victims of colonialism fighting back? Would be fun to see more pro-Nihil pov stories to show the other side and not just stereotype them as evil mad terrorists. I mean, people joined them willingly after all too. And they did use the tactic of stealing children and show them their way of life like natives did in the real world history.
    Especially with Hutts helping the Republic and Jedi briefly the Nihil as a unifying Outer Rim counterpoint that is not as evil as the Hutts would be interesting!
     
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  2. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Much of what we know about the Clone Wars is filtered through the lens of New Republic-era propaganda. With the re-establishment of the Jedi Order, media began to over-emphasize the Jedi's role in the conflict. As a result, the many non-Jedi (and even clone) generals were largely written out of the conflict. The non-clone soldiers were also heavily de-emphasized in order to paint the eventual Imperial army as largely "brainwashed". In actuality, large parts of the Republic's military were non-clone volunteers, former Judicial Forces personnel and members of federalized PSFs. The Republic's officer corps consisted of many non-clones, even in the lower ranks. Clones, while largely infantry, even reached flag ranks on several occasions.
     
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  3. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Ready for some NJO to Legacy Legends Headcanons?

    If with the ST and NJO onwards SW enters full on Arthurian myth influences, we may roadmap the post FOTJ era likewise. Have the NJO to early Legacy era be Arthurian with later parts pre-Legacy comics entering a Musketeer setting.

    https://boards.theforce.net/threads/morrigan-phantom-queen-triple-goddess-of-war.28241451/

    The already ongoing themes of Morrigan Corde / Nyna Calixte and Triple Godesses and the like as detailed in aboves sadly locked topic could have been a perfect setup for a post Legacy comics story involving her and maybe the return of Abeloth faced by Legacy characters. As to how they face her, that I already posted in other headcanons and topics.

    https://boards.theforce.net/threads/invasion-as-the-arthurian-legend.31409095/

    Finn Galfridians story and that of his family sadly remains unfinished. But using mythological inspirations for it as above locked topic details perfectly would give him and his relatives a nice role in the NJO and afterwards if mythology is continued as the one it is inspired by. Finn and Co could even be tied to the holy grail, Mortis Knights and likewise post-NJO thus!


    Anakin Solo's lightsaber in a tree as another Excalibur incarnate aside the Skywalker saber from the ST also has to come into play one day. As does Allana on the Throne of Balance, be that literal or a spiritual one.


    So we have a wonderful arthurian era in late Legends:

    -The Mortis Knights quest for the Holy Land of the Force and a mythical dagger with which to kill Abeloth
    -Meanwhile the holy bloodline of the Chosen Ones, the "Sang Real" or holy grail so to speak in Allana Djo Solo ascends to the Hapan Throne. Hapes as a former Celestial Construct as per Atlas may have a secret importance to its throne, which may be a Throne of Balance. Throne or not, Allana becomes a spiritual leader of the galaxy if not a political one and is the true Force Dalai Lama of her era.
    -With Mortis found and empty, its former role gone into the real world, where balancing has to happen now instead of a secluded realm to control the Force (leaked Art of TROS aka Duel of the Fates, the ST movie that never was for Mortis), the Knights still guard it and retrieve the Dagger of Mortis as well as other artifacts.
    -The Felpire grows into a Force Pope-ship with Imperial Knights of the Round Table opposed by the Jedi Order and its monasteries.
    -Imperial Knights and Jedi Knights are not enemies but occasionally clash, akin to Musketeers "Kings troops" vs. "Cardinal troops" with Luke Skywalker or after him Ben Skywalker like such a Cardinal initiating a new Jedi dogma.
    -When Morrigan Corde / Nyna Calixte falls in love with Kol Skywalker she is torn between her Imperial life, her love for a Jedi and her greater aspirations and goals she kept close to herself. Despite her alliance with the Sith, Empire and Jedi, she has grander aspirations and is essential in shaping Legacy and the future after Legacy even if some will remember her as a monster instead of a hero. Her triple role, despite sowing chaos, is to steer several factions to a common goal. Not any goal, but a specific one, which is why she also prevents some good alliances like between Stazi and the Felperor. She does not just want to defeat the Sith but defeat them a specific way to create a certain future. Maybe she was inspired by a vision, a myth or a person and worked to make her dream a reality against all odds and at all costs to her personal life and love.
    -With the Sith escalating conflict. kicking off their return and the Legacy comics, the galaxy was reshaped and ended up after their defeat a triumvirate. Was this Morrigan Corde's vision come true? Her three roles culminating in three joining forces to rule together? Jedi, Republic and Empire?
    -When Abeloth returns, she once again takes over several bodies, among them that of Morrigan Corde/Nyna Calixte as well as others before being defeated.
    -An old Crone now and no longer on any throne but still a spiritual leader of the galaxy, Allanah still is kicking as typical for her dathomiri roots and got a cult following of her own (imagine The Magdalena style hapan-dathomiri Force Nuns?) that swore to find and defeat Abeloth should she ever return.
    -As Jedi, leftover Sith, Triumvirate and others unite to defeat Abeloths next coming, a new hero arises and will pull Anakin Solo's lightsaber from a tree. My guess is it may be a Yuuzhan Vong Forcesensitive, who will use it to help defeat Abeloth and proof that together (GFFA and Vong) they are more than the sum of their parts as the Anakin/Tahiri prophecy once foretold. The Vong finally redeemed in the GFFAs eyes and accepted? Did Anakins blade become the Dagger of Mortis as Mortis roles are in the real world now? Or did the blade broke and whoever pulled it from the tree healed and repaired it with pieces of the original Dagger, merging them?
     
  4. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    In the distant past Zygerrians were conquered by the Sith, that performed a massive genetic experiment to obtain effective guards for their numerous slave camps. In result most of the Zygerria's populace became physically stronger, more violent and got darker sclera. Although the Sith later lost direct control over them, the Zygerrian Empire worked closely with various Sith orders and factions throughout history, supplying them with slaves. The percent of mid-ranking and high-ranking Zygerrian Sith were also one of the highest among all species (and that's why in Jedi tapestry from Out of the Shadows a Sith pictured as member of this species).
     
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  5. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I wonder if the Arkanians experimented on them.

    But.

    The Zygerrian Slave Empire, running around the Outer Rim between Azgada to Ryloth, it sounds very much like a Sith-allied organisation, and the war which undid it took place thousands of years before the Clone Wars so one wonders. The Cold War saw Zygerria attacked also.

    @ColeFardreamer - Thule = Thul = Accepted for me, but perhaps Sith-humans fled to Alderaan, much as they did Vjun and became nobility then. I could very much see it.

    Aside.

    The Sith Eternal cult was founded within Red Space by Tenebrae; when he reached (or perhaps returned to) the Dark Worlds/Perann Nebula, he set up his third regime as an amalgamation of the Sith Empire and Eternal Empire. This included the ancient shipyards that Palpatine restored. The 'True Sith' within the nebula didn't care to do much but worship in madness, playing with the local Terrors and skirmishing with the Chiss, until Palpatine demanded their fealty and he rebuilt their ranks.

    I couldn't yet say how Cronal relates to this, though perhaps he was sent as an emissary to Palpatine in a round-about way, bringing him an ally within the Prophets of the Dark Side as a gift.
     
  6. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    The elf eared, horned, red haired Zygerrians from the comics were a group of zabrak/sephi hybrids that the original Zygerrians bred as warrior-slave stock, and ended up getting a relatively high status for slaves and culturally absorbed into the wider Zygerrian society, to the point they are often referred to as Zygerrian as much as the original feline species, though are sometimes distinguished as Red Zygerrians or Zygerrian Zabraks.

    I mean, pretty much every Nihil character's backstory we got was born in Republic space, and as a whole the organization seems to have a lot of deep ties to the Republic's core including the senate itself, so they don't see "native and indigenious"

    If anything they seem closer to the pirates of the Caribbean and various groups of settlers that tried to resist the authorities of their homelands and set up their own societies of outcasts on the fringes of exploration and expansion - of which there were a lot more than you would expect -

    But especially the pirates with the whole emphasis on pillaging as an expression of freedom thing.
     
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  7. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    We could get another interesting example of an Emperor's Hand serving in an official capacity. The "Imperial Ambassador to the Unknown Regions" would be very important in Palpatine's future schemes.
     
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  8. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    The Movie THX-1138 and its story is GFFA canon, set on Exegol and tells how Sheev Jr. and Rey's mother escaped Exegol!

    Just tweak it so that both escape with her pregnant. The rest is basically Rey's parents story... literally!
     
  9. RogueWhistler

    RogueWhistler Jedi Knight star 3

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    The Felucians learned to tame Rancors from Shaak Ti, who in turn learned from the Singing Mountain Clan on Dathomir.
    Shaak Ti lived among them for a while post-Order 66, during which time she fostered a young witch who took her last name.
     
  10. K2771991

    K2771991 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    A new bit of headcanon

    Leia and Han had two children in canon; the second being a daughter named Jaina born in 13 ABY. Alongside Lando's daughter she was one of the kids of the "leaders of the old wars" he talks about getting taken by the First Order, but she was lucky enough to get rescued by a couple from Dulathia shortly after she was taken, and becuase they were unware of her origins they adopted her. Leia and Han originally thought she had been killed but eventually tracked her down, though they decided not to take any action to claim her becuase they realized she was happy with her new family and did'nt remember them. Leia still kept an eye on her, though...

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  11. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Imperial propaganda depicted Jar Jar as a hero.
     
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  12. K2771991

    K2771991 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    @darklordoftech of course they did; he's the actual Dark of the Sith who telling Palpatine what to do, after all:p
     
  13. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I've been debating how to get Connix as another Solo child for a while. [face_laugh]
     
  14. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Force Ghost star 4

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    Lol, me too. Billie Lourd should've been portraying their child from the beginning.
     
  15. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    peeks at One Canon

    Could Leia have had a child during Han and Leia's separation in NJO? [face_laugh]

    I feel like Cole right now.

    Or is she Tahiri's child with Jacen?

    Oh gods what am I saying.
     
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  16. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Force Ghost star 4

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    Douchebag Clone Jacen making moves on Anakin's girl. Still find that as sickening as Tahiri's "interrogation" of 14-year-old Ben Skywalker.
     
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  17. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I do kind of like the small-time evilness of Caedus corrupting Tahiri.

    It's very petty and basically vile.

    It belies the grand vision of his necessary actions, because there are so many signs that Caedus, even when he professes he understands that he's not gone mad, he really doesn't see all the accumulated monstrous things he has really done. Like when the droids reflect how it's always Caedus when someone comes to the morgue with a broken neck, and he's spending the book thinking about how high and mighty and Good he is.

    I do not like the Tahiri-Ben stuff.
     
  18. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    o_O

    I'll just leave it at Winter must have had her hands full with hidden secret kids all the time. No wonder they didn't rent Anoth base for just the few we knew under Legends. To justify the costs, there got to be more kids!

    PS: I always envisioned Kaydel Ko Connix to be the equivalent to Legends Anni Capstan! Like Nelani Dinn a severely underused great character. Or if not a Jaina peer, one of Leia's two named handmaidens from the Black Fleet Crisis I think it was that were never mentioned again sadly.

    Meanwhile my latest headcanon theory you inspired is over there:
    https://boards.theforce.net/threads/lego-star-wars-the-skywalker-saga-spoilers-in-tags.50057460/

    If you like character parentage speculations and timeline shenangians, check it out over there!
     
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  19. K2771991

    K2771991 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I was too; I had given up on it for a while becuase the only way I could think of would be for Leia to cheat on Han and hide the kid, and I could'nt imagine why she would do that.

    The I rewatched TROS the other day and Lando's line clicked to me as a perfect explanation, and the rest was just a matter of filling in the dots from how Connix went from getting kidnapped to being raised on Dulathia under an assumed name, and how Leia knows she's her missing daughter.

    Of course, it's all bound to get totally once the lore inevitably gets fleshed out enough to make it clear Leia and Han did'nt have any other kids:p - but who knows, maybe someone at LFL will come up with a similer idea down the line?
     
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  20. There were many technological advances in the galaxy at the end of Tales of the Jedi that is why in KOTOR the technology looks like the prequels
     
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  21. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    working on a new headcanon, but its still in refinement and a longer article... but a tiny preview here already:

    The hidden world of Rei'izu from the Visions-novel Ronin as galactic capital of an Empire that knew Jedi and Sith, could it be located within the Hapes Cluster?

    In the mists and nebulae it should be easier to hide a world with Force Magick of a Sith Witch than elsewhere. And it'd give the cluster some pre-Lorell Raiders importance that got lost to history before the Raiders used this "lost place" so to speak. Also, its role in governance and for Forceusers like ancient Jedi and Sith may be relevant if its throne is a "throne of balance" thus as in Jacen Solos vision for Allana, should she maybe in the future rediscover the lost world of the past and the clusters past importance. As the Atlas named the entire cluster a celestial construct, it having importance and such a place might work well. And with Dathomir in the hapan fold and Tenel Ka and Allana as royal family, it come full circle of Witches and Witchcraft return to Rei'izu as that was what ended its importance.

    alternatively, if not going with a "Ronin is set in the past" headcanon, a future post-ST setting with Rei'izu as galactic capital may also work with it being within the Hapes Cluster. Just think about it.
     
  22. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Jar Jar giving Palpatine emergency powers was actually part of a Rakata plot to make the Dark Side rule the galaxy once more.:p
     
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  23. CosmoHender

    CosmoHender Jedi Master star 4

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    I want to headcanon Connix as a Solo so bad...
     
  24. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I’m wondering about it.

    I may throw a thought out after Shadow of the Sith is finished.
     
  25. K2771991

    K2771991 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Hey, go ahead; if my idea works for you feel free. I'm certainly headcanoning it. Until, that is...

    This book almost certainly crushes the idea:(
     
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