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Discussion in 'Literature' started by Gruntz, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Given that Nomi appeared to be the leader of the Order in the immediate aftermath of the War (Redemption story) somehow I can't see her introducing or enforcing such a rule herself, as a widow.

    I could definitely see it being an unofficial rule, among sections of the order (to account for the Jolee Bindo thing) but not as an official rule handed down from the very top.

    The order might have "frowned on" Jolee's getting married as a Padawan - but they didn't expel him for that.
     
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  2. VaderBoyee

    VaderBoyee Jedi Padawan star 1

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    That works too. I'm glad to know others fantasize about reconciling some cartoons too.
     
  3. VaderBoyee

    VaderBoyee Jedi Padawan star 1

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    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wutzek
     
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  4. Biel Ductavis

    Biel Ductavis Jedi Master star 4

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    Reminds me a bit on the Shi'ido

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  5. CosmoHender

    CosmoHender Jedi Master star 4

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    I like to think the CW micro-series happened in Broad Strokes, the events happened but not necessarily in the way presented in the micro-series, especially since the micro-series was very over the top and exaggerated. Here's how I reconcile the differences:

    -While the recruitment of Ventress happened during the Clone Wars in the micro-series, in "Dooku Lost" it happened around 23 BBY, before the Clone Wars. I combine the version of the events in my head, having it take place in 23 BBY but having Ventress kill Kirske later rather than having Dooku kill Kirske then. Ventress probably doesn't meet Darth Sidious and isn't sent to kill Anakin in this version, since even in the Legends continuity this didn't make much sense since the events on Ohma-D'un, Ruul, and Queyta are meant to take place before the duel on Yavin yet the micro-series presents it so that the duel on Yavin happens immediately after Dooku recruits her. Plus I don't know if it makes that much sense for Ventress to be immediately introduced to Darth Sidious.

    -In my headcanon, Anakin becomes a Jedi Knight immediately after defeating Ventress on Yavin 4 and Grievous reveals himself on Hypori. Though this is how it is presented in the micro-series, in Legends there was actually a large amount of time between the events (yet Ki-Adi-Mundi still refers to Hypori as if it was a recent event). I feel like it just works better if Anakin gets Knighted at that point and that requires other stories that show Anakin as a Padawan to be moved before the Battle of Muunlinst instead of after. And maybe Anakin gets his scar on Yavin 4, since I don't know if the duel between him and Ventress on Coruscant would work in my headcanon.

    -Like I already said, the Battle of Nelvaan happens some time before the Battle of Yerbana, during the final months of the war.

    -As for the Battle of Coruscant, I like to combine the events from the micro-series with the events from Labyrinth of Evil. For Palpatine's capture, the events would be similar to the micro-series until Shaak Ti stays behind. Roron Corobb and Foul Moudama meet up with Stass Allie, Roth-Del Masona, and B'ink Utrila. Stass Allie is rendered unconscious by a surprise attack from Grievous and his slaughter in the underground bunker from Labyrinth of Evil plays out. Shaak Ti arrives too late to stop him.
     
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  6. VaderBoyee

    VaderBoyee Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I take all SW stories at face value. Because its a fantasy universe thinking about if a story really "happened' as is can get confusing and ruin the enjoyability of the story, which was how Lucas intended it to be: "cathartic".

    The details of story-placing, however, are open to interpretation. I for one think ROTJ must have been six months after TESB, because a whole year seems ludicrous to me. It could be said that space-distortion made it a year, but I just can't accept it.

    Anyway, if Ani and Obi are shown doing something TWICE, it must've been twice-from a certain point of view.
     
  7. CosmoHender

    CosmoHender Jedi Master star 4

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    In Jango Fett's backstory according to the Open Seasons comic, Jango was at one point stripped of his armor and sold into slavery. He spent years as a slave aboard a slave transport until he managed to free himself during a pirate attack. My headcanon is that those pirates were led by Hondo Ohnaka, which was how he met Jango and eventually became friends with him, which they were according to Hondo in The Clone Wars.
     
  8. Maybe Jolee was not expelled because the War was going to happen and they needed more Jedi
    even if mandatory celibacy was not highly formed yet it was already a popular philosophy during that time they were already in the first steps for the Jedi Order to become celibate and i think the War solidified that philosophy more
     
  9. Golbolco

    Golbolco Jedi Master star 4

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    Didn't Jolee specifically try to marry his own Padawan? I can see how that would stir memorable controversy, given a possible imbalance of powers. If real life workplace dynamics discourage superiors from dating subordinates, wouldn't a monastic order do the same?
     
  10. Iron_lord

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    It was the other way round - first he married someone (while still a Padawan) then he tried to train her despite not being a Knight.
     
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  11. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Ah so kinda like Nomi Sunrider and her first husband... she sure picked some up from him before Thon refined it.

    Guess Jolee called precedent and wanted to do the same, but forgot that Andur Sunrider ended up dead and his wife dating a Jedi turned Sith Lord before bringing him down. No wonder the Order was not pleased and hoped to prevent another Sith War via celibacy!




    And a new headcanon:


    Could one retcon the Commandos that join Jyn Erso to be the "original" Katarn Commandos? We have a later Legends unit by that name and even Kyle working with them during DE to free Mara Jade. Maybe Katarn trained them or worked with them alongside Rianna Saren before they went to Jyn?

    Their canon backstory goes back to the GCW and them operating under Major Bren Derlin, who handed them to Judder Page later on in Legends after it. Lets extend their history just a bit and it gets interesting, I'd say!
     
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  12. MercenaryAce

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    Saw's hair changes from bald to puffy every time you look away in universe. People rarely comment on this, and when they do Saw doesn't know what they are talking about.

    Yeah, I was thinking something similar - that Nelvaan plays out like the show, except that the call they get is to reinforce Yerbana rather than Coruscant.

    I see, that does make sense. Thanks.
     
  13. In Legends Palpatine used Depa Billaba blood for his Clone bodies similar how Dooku used Sifo Dyas body for General Grievous
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  14. Vialco

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    It’s funny you mention Depa, because I was just thinking about her. It’s an often overlooked moment, but Darth Sidious himself visited her while she was comatose at the Jedi Temple, in his public guise of Supreme Chancellor. I have no doubt that Sidious was greatly amused by Billaba’s fate. A Jedi Master who thought to walk along the edge of darkness. Unlike Sora Bulq and Quinlan Vos, Depa fell too far and too deep into the Dark to be of any use to the Sith. The 501st likely shot Billaba dead during Operation: Knightfall. Either that or they took her alive for Sidious’s dark experiments.
     
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  15. CosmoHender

    CosmoHender Jedi Master star 4

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    Honestly, in the Legends continuity I feel like the latter is more likely (it feels in-character for Palpatine) and more interesting.
     
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  16. Depa is in a coma we do not know what happen to her in Legends so that was my headcanon
     
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  17. VaderBoyee

    VaderBoyee Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I've been trying to reconcile that one. Thanks!
     
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  18. Sinrebirth

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    I just had it that Palpatine ‘pardoned’ Depa and Barriss so they would’ve been on the frontlines and easier to pick off.
     
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  19. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    I feel like it would be far easier to have Barriss shot in her cell and Depa shot through her bacta tank than rely on Order 66 taking out two Dark Jedi. A more plausible motive for pardoning them, to me, would be to further tarnish the Jedi Order’s reputation.
     
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  20. Cade Skywalker defeated Darth Krayt because Krayt had a weak body for being in stasis so long
     
  21. Mira Grau

    Mira Grau Force Ghost star 5

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    Easier than to kill someone locked in a prison cell?
     
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  22. PCCViking

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    It's the James Bond villain method of killing: instead of simply shooting them, they set up their victims in an elaborate execution scheme. :p
     
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  23. Mira Grau

    Mira Grau Force Ghost star 5

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    "Did we not leave Kim Possible on a conveyor belt to her doom?"
    "Yes. A proper villain always leaves his foe when he's about to expire."
    "Why?"
    "Well, it would be bad form just to loll about, waiting for it."
     
  24. PCCViking

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    In the first Kingsmen movie, Samuel L. Jackson and Colin Firth's characters talk about Bond movies and Jackson's character does say, "This isn't that kind of movie."
     
  25. Mira Grau

    Mira Grau Force Ghost star 5

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    Didn`t Jacksons charakter in Django Unchained made the exact same mistake? [face_laugh]