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Amph Spider-Man & SSU Films (Madame Web, Venom 3, Kraven, Beyond the Spider-Verse)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Spiderfan, May 20, 2008.

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Adam of Nuchtern Force Ghost

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Adam of Nuchtern said: ↑

It feels very 90's. And not in a good way.
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Adam of Nuchtern, Jul 31, 2018

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The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth Staff Member Manager

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You guys are crazy- that looks really good (ok, maybe not Riot, but Venom himself looks fantastic most of the time), much better than the previous trailers (they even got the pronunciation right this time). Some lines even straight out of the comics.

Couldn't make out the one line at the end, though- "Rolling down the street, like a (???), in the wind."

The2ndQuest , Jul 31, 2018

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Diggy Chosen One

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The2ndQuest said: ↑

You guys are crazy- that looks really good (ok, maybe not Riot, but Venom himself looks fantastic most of the time), much better than the previous trailers (they even got the pronunciation right this time). Some lines even straight out of the comics.

Couldn't make out the one line at the end, though- "Rolling down the street, like a (???), in the wind."
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Turd.

Diggy , Jul 31, 2018

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The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth Staff Member Manager

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That's kinda what I thought I heard but figured i had to be wrong there. Ok, so that isn't the highlight line of the trailer, heh.

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The2ndQuest , Jul 31, 2018

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Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One

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I still think the CGI in Venom needs polishing, but for me, it looks better on a movie screen.

I like the second trailer as it reminded me of the Upgrade (which when I initially saw that trailer, I thought was the premise for a great Venom movie). And I'm looking forward to this film as I can see it's world's better than the Eddie Brock/Venom from Spider-Man 3 and the character is giving off those Punisher-like vibes. So, I can forgive the poor CGI if the characterizations and story carry the film, rather than action pieces and spectacles.

Sith_Sensei__Prime, Jul 31, 2018

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BigAl6ft6 Chosen One

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That looked darkly fun to me. I would appreciate any time Tom Hardy gets to go gonzo and he's goin gonzo as freakin Venom

BigAl6ft6, Jul 31, 2018

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Diggy Chosen One

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The2ndQuest said: ↑

That's kinda what I thought I heard but figured i had to be wrong there. Ok, so that isn't the highlight line of the trailer, heh.
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...yes, I was talking about the missing word.

Diggy , Jul 31, 2018

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The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth Staff Member Manager

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Well, the turd turd turd, the turd is the word.

The2ndQuest , Jul 31, 2018

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Ghost Chosen One

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It looks dark but fun... it's supposed to be more light-hearted, like Spider-Man, not as heavy as something like Batman.

But I have to say... maybe it's my computer, but I had trouble understanding Venom's dialogue. Not sure if it's clarity or volume or both... or maybe just me.

Ghost, Jul 31, 2018

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Reynar_Tedros Jedi Grand Master

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Prediction: the Venom parts will be good, the non-Venom parts will be bad.

Reynar_Tedros, Jul 31, 2018

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Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One

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The Japanese poster of Venom looks so on point.

And on the heels of that, Sony/Marvel Studios released the title card for the followup flick to Homecoming.

Apparently it is national Spider-Man day.

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Sith_Sensei__Prime, Aug 1, 2018

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BigAl6ft6 Chosen One

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Hopefully the movie captures the true spirit of Venom

BigAl6ft6, Aug 1, 2018

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Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One

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BigAl6ft6 said: ↑

Hopefully the movie captures the true spirit of Venom
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That's the feeling I've been getting from the trailers and why I previously posted it's worlds better than the Topher Grace's Eddie Brock/Venom in Spider-Man 3. I mean Eddie Brock has been depicted as a hulking guy and Venom as twice the size of Spidey, so we're getting that in this upcoming cinematic iteration of the character.

And the Kraven movie moves another step closer to production.

Sith_Sensei__Prime, Aug 2, 2018

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PCCViking 8X Wacky Wednesday Winner VIP - Game Winner

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I think Luke Evans would make a good Kraven.

PCCViking , Aug 2, 2018

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Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One

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I agree. However, how could you make a great Kraven flick without Spidey? I suppose Venom would be the substitute.

Sith_Sensei__Prime, Aug 2, 2018

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Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One

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I love this article:

In Defense of the ‘Venom’ Trailer’s “Turd in the Wind” Line

Sony Pictures recently released a lengthy second trailer for Venom, the non-Spider-Man Spider-Man spinoff in which Eddie Brock (Tom Hardy) symbiotically bonds with an alien ball of Gak that gives him super-strength, slime-tentacles, and an appetite for mugger pancreas. A lot going on here, folks, and that’s before you get to the very end of the trailer, which features a line from the Venom symbiote so sublimely stupid that it rounds back to being flawless art. Collider usually sets a firm 50,000-word limit on opening paragraphs so I can’t adequately describe it’s absurd beauty in this space, so here it is word-for-word:

"We will eat both your arms, and then both of your legs, and then we will eat your face right off your head. You will be this armless, legless, faceless little thing, won’t you? Rolling down the street like a turd in the wind."

A turd.

In the wind.

There’s so much to unpack there. I could write a thesis. Would a turd in the wind even go anywhere? (The average wind speed in San Francisco is 7mph and Venom creator Todd McFarlane has not responded to multiple inquiries into the weight of the character’s turds.) If a monstrous, gooey abomination with razor sharp teeth suddenly used the word “turd” to threaten you, could you stop yourself from chuckling just a little? Is Tom Hardy aware he doesn’t have to talk like that? So many questions, so many layers, and yet, and yet, the “turd in the wind” line is, at my last reporting, being viciously dunked on across social media and various pop culture critic circles.

I am here today to explain that “rolling down the street like a turd in the wind” is Good, Actually, for the reasons I will lay out here forthwith:

1. That Line Is Hilarious

Come on. Come on. I know that we live in an age where every other release is a comic book movie and not everyone enjoys their caped-and-cowled characters in the same way. But I worry that we’re taking for granted that Tom Hardy, encased in an alien slime monster suit and using a voice I assume he crafted by watching Charlie Kelly rants and drinking Mezcal, threatens to eat a man’s face off his head—the logistics of which astound me—by calling that man a turd. A turd. That is objectively funny and anyone who thinks otherwise is an undercover cop.

2. That Line Is Incredibly On-Brand

The Venom character—at least, the character you picture when you think of Venom—is the product of a very specific time in comic books. The idea for the Symbiote and the black Spider-Man suit was dreamed up in 1988, but the archetypal Venom—the bulging muscles, the claws, the uncomfortably sensual tongue—is a product of the 1990s. And in the 1990s, comic books were Extreme. No, Xtreme. Every book had an X added to the title, even the X-Men. Every character had a machine gun now, and that machine gun was also a sword that was on fire. While a lot of that aesthetic doesn’t hold up—female characters were drawn with a very misinformed idea of the way spines work—the Venom character is rooted in a very certain brand of stupidity. I say that mostly as a compliment. Much of the 90’s were a big, loud, stupid time for comics, and a ten-foot-tall space beast would definitely, for sure, 100% called someone a turd in the wind without regard to the physics of such an insult.

3. That Line Is Hilarious

Just want to reiterate.

4. Marvel Would Never

Marvel would never. Look, by now Marvel Studios has this thing down to a gosh darn science. For better or worse, they know how to make a superhero movie that appeals to everyone, all at once. But Marvel’s storytelling revolves fully around the idea that their characters are the coolest. All of the time. Groot is a tree and he’s cool as ****. Even Marvel’s more “racy” humor, like Peter Quill’s spaceship looking like a Jackson Pollock painting under a blacklight, makes them look cool. Marvel would never let one of their characters look as singularly un-cool as Venom does saying “turd in the wind.” And that’s what it is, by the way; I feel like a lot of negativity toward that line comes from the idea it’s supposed to be earnestly badass, which ignores the odd-couple tone of the rest of the trailer. It’s not badass. It’s an alien from another planet melding minds with down-on-his-luck, incredibly sweaty newspaper reporter to try and sound tough. It is a decidedly un-Marvel-like moment, which these days feels like a breath of fresh air. Or, you know, not so fresh.

Check out the trailer below and form your opinion. Please be aware that I respect your right to disagree, as long as you respect my right to believe that makes you a turd.

A turd in the wind.

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Sith_Sensei__Prime, Aug 3, 2018

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Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One

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So, Todd McFarlane and fans have ideas to adjust the look of Venom for the better.

TODD MCFARLANE FIXES VENOM MOVIE (VIDEO)

Leave it up to Todd McFarlane to fix the Venom movie, as the creator of the character takes to Facebook to offer up a few corrections in the following video.

As noted, the Venom movie does look pretty cool, but Todd McFarlane offers if he was in charge of things, he would have the symbiote look more like its comic book counterpart.

The video shows Todd McFarlane lessening the length of the eyes as well as the teeth.

"LIVE: TODDY TWEEKS HIS PAL Venom!! For those folks who don't know...I'm the CO-CREATOR of this dude!" Todd McFarlane posted on Facebook. "By the way, I think it looks pretty cool. Tom Hardy doing a good job. The trailer looks good. I'm hoping for big things on it. See you then."

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Before:

After:

I think the fan art is much better:

Sith_Sensei__Prime, Aug 7, 2018

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Bilbo Fett Force Ghost

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Since some might consider this a spoiler for A4, in the same vein as knowing Spider-Man himself must survive because he has a sequel on the docket:

People had been speculating about SLJ for a while now due to some of his 'tweeted from' locations but:

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Bilbo Fett, Aug 7, 2018

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The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth Staff Member Manager

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Silver & Black scrapped, solo Black Cat movie moves forward.

Venom being edited down to PG-13, not just to widen potential audience but to make crossovers with Avengers characters easier; even though it was supposedly aiming for a bloodier R-rating.

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The2ndQuest , Aug 9, 2018

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Bilbo Fett Force Ghost

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The2ndQuest said: ↑

Venom being edited down to PG-13, not just to widen potential audience but to make crossovers with Avengers characters easier
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I guess that will be one get that Sony will be angling for when it comes time to re-up their deal with Marvel.

Bilbo Fett, Aug 9, 2018

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Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer Staff Member Manager

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Regarding that article: TBF, Quill called someone a “turd blossom.” Ronan, if memory serves.

Jedi Merkurian , Aug 10, 2018

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BigAl6ft6 Chosen One

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well I think an unrated Venom cut on bluray is almost guaranteed, the unrated cut of The Wolverine is better than the theatrical version.

BigAl6ft6, Aug 13, 2018

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darth-sinister Manager Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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Jedi Merkurian said: ↑

Regarding that article: TBF, Quill called someone a “turd blossom.” Ronan, if memory serves.
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Correct.

darth-sinister, Aug 13, 2018

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Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One

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Did Tom Holland Just Confirm Hydro-Man In Spider-Man: Far From Home?

Hydro-Man is the internet speculation. I've seen Namor as another possibility.

VENOM COULD BE ON TRACK TO BREAK OCTOBER BOX OFFICE RECORD IN NORTH AMERICA

Venom is reportedly tracking to have the biggest North American opening weekend ever for October.

Per BoxOffice Pro, the Sony film is on track to gross anywhere from $55-$85 million, up from the company's previous $30–50 million estimate.

If the current estimates don't change, Venom could surpass 2013's Gravity, which currently holds the record for the biggest October opening weekend in North America, grossing roughly $55.8 million.

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Sith_Sensei__Prime, Aug 17, 2018

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Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One

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I wasn't a fan of Andrew Garfield's portray of Peter Parker/Spider-Man, but it works for me in this meme.

Sith_Sensei__Prime, Sep 5, 2018

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