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Books A/V STAR WARS: ROGUE #$^$%&ING ONE: A STAR WARS STORY

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CooperTFN, Mar 12, 2015.

  1. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I knew who Rogue Squadron was long before I started hanging out with you all, and I read the X-Wing novels less than a year ago.

    Oh hell.
     
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  2. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    "Your liver is lost. Take your Jedi spirit in hand and consume it and cross to the Drunk Side of the Force!"
     
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  3. Good_News_Nobody

    Good_News_Nobody Jedi Knight star 2

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    So, the writer for this movie is a man who wrote for Twilight movies ([face_sick]) ? Really?
     
  4. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Now that's a red flag!
     
  5. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah, that's pretty much what the sentiment that lies behind my earlier post today.

    Unlike Lucas, whose "vision" steered what he did, with stuff like renaming Korriban to Moraband, I haven't got the impression Disney do that sort of thing as much, since to them every last customer means more $$$ and they don't tend to alienate prospective buyers unless they really, really have to, and the only reason to call it "Rogue One" if it's not about X-Wings would be if some creative dude was soooo insistent on that as a title, but... by itself the title doesn't make money, and I'm inclined to feel that they'd not have picked that as a title if it's not about X-Wings, simply to avoid creating unnecessarily friction. I mean, sure, maybe the number who know about Rogue Squadron are a small group (I'm actually not as confident as Jello about the numbers), but even if this film wasn't about X-Wings, the name "Rogue Squadron" is still proven to sell video games as much as Battlefront, and I doubt they'd want to confuse that future revenue stream just for the sake of some director's "artistic vision", as those days ended with Lucas.
     
  6. Cynical_Ben

    Cynical_Ben Force Ghost star 4

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    He wrote one, yeah, New Moon. He also wrote the Cinderella movie that just came out, and The Golden Compass, and other things. He's a gun for hire who polishes scripts.
     
  7. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    As long as he doesn't have Felicity Jones sitting in a rocking chair and staring mournfully out a window for months because a man left her.
     
  8. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Is the problem with Twilight the screenwriters or the source material?
     
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  9. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    I'd say source material.
     
  10. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    If they DO do it - which assumes she's still alive during the time of ANH, which I doubt -, I think an audio only comm-channel broadcast would be best. That would be awesome to hear A.E. voicing Ahoska in a live action film. It would be enough to make me totally geek out. I'm not sure I want to see a live-action Ahsoka, though.
     
  11. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Hmm, Golden Compass has to mitigate against New Moon for me. Real pity we never got the sequels.
     
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  12. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Twilight's problem? Oh boy...

    [Inserts wall of text so long that it breaks TFN's servers and the website goes offline.]
     
  13. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Loving Tyrant of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I think the guys at Rifftrax have summed up Twilight's major problems pretty well.
     
  14. Good_News_Nobody

    Good_News_Nobody Jedi Knight star 2

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    What gives me the creeps, is a possibility, that a generation of younger SW fans (younglings) will recognize Star Wars not because of Luke Skywalker, Solo or Leia, but Ashoka! A character who shouldn't have existed in the first place! Just imagine such question - why wasn't Ashoka in OT? And then someone will render OT outdated and remake one with Ashoka. Oh, the horror!
     
  15. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Everyone has their entry characters, what's the problem? I mean, true, I don't get the attraction of Jar Jar Binks but for some kids, that's their starting point.
     
  16. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    It's weird, besides hunting down a couple of important epiosdes like Mortis or Maul's resurrection, I never watched TCW beyond Season 3 because for some unknown reason the UK never showed the rest, and although I got them on DVD, I never got around to it (and super weird, the DVD for the Netflix episodes wasn't released here either as far as I can tell, so I had to get an international version, so weird)...

    Until this month, and have been slowly working through them. And strangely? I'm actually not having any issues with Ahsoka. I remembered hating the idea of her back when when the first two seasons were released here on Sky, but with the end of the EU, I guess I'm just... less bothered anymore, and finding myself actually enjoying the show without worrying about continuity.

    Enough so that I'd actually not care if they did put her into stuff like Rogue One.

    ...I feel like such a traitor. :p
     
  17. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Ahsoka being an entry character isn't a problem.

    "Why isn't Ahsoka in the OT?" should induce a Vader-worthy reaction: "You have failed me for the last time."
     
  18. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    I admittedly won't be shocked if she gets digitally inserted into Chalmun's Cantina in Ep4 someday.

    (Hey, at least we'd have two Duros to compare her with then :p)
     
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  19. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Just put Ahsoka in, sling her in an X-wing, blow it up and traumatise an entire generation! [face_devil]
     
  20. Good_News_Nobody

    Good_News_Nobody Jedi Knight star 2

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    That's a problem, if true. Shouldn't SW need less opportunistic screenwriters?

    [face_rofl]
     
  21. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    I initially was going to suggest seeing her in one of the other cells on the Death Star, implying Vader had captured her, and her being there when it gets blown up, but... I didn't want to sound too cruel. :p

    Edit: Thinking about that, it actually would be hilarious that Luke would be the one who blew her up.
     
  22. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    Uh, no, that's how Hollywood works. You often have writers who are better at different aspects of the writing, and that becomes their job. Because they are good at it. Some are better at breaking a story, some are better at dialogue, some are better at condensing the beats of the story into a better experience. A lot of very well known writers are uncredited on films doing final dialogue-passes on the script. Not all great storytellers can write good dialogue, and not all who write good dialogue can structure a story. Its how it works.
     
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  23. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Yep and not just Hollywood, for instance, In the Thick Of It , had a Swear-master for Malcolm Tucker's rants!
     
  24. Sniper_Wolf

    Sniper_Wolf Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Welcome to trying to make a life as a screenwriter. The other main writer of the Twilight films was a core writer for Dexter for the first half of its run. A person's synapses will feel better if they just admit they are disappointed we are going to receive the last will and testament of the Death Star plans instead of the X-Wing movie.
     
  25. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis

    The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Force Ghost star 5

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    Chris Weitz did not write New Moon, no. He directed it, but Summit/the crazy Mormon author exerted pretty strong control over it on that level. All four Twilight directors were pretty much guns-for-hire.