The Bad Batch The Bad Batch 1.09 - Bounty Lost - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

I must've missed that bit.

 

Have to wonder how many other Kaminoan facilities are out there abandoned and if any outposts are not.

 

The Empire is already moving away from Clones and I just don’t think it’s because she’s an unaltered clone of Fett.

Don’t get me wrong, Fett is great and all but there is probably an unfathomable number of suitable candidates and it seems like a huuuge effort to go to just as a fail safe.

Another thing is do they even need the original host’s DNA? I know they keep talking about running out of Jango’s DNA but they’re literally surrounded by his clones. These ones are already more receptive to orders, have all of his physicality, mindset etc. they’ve been bred for war and so all the necessary genetic modification to heighten those abilities has already been done. Why do they need Jango’s DNA?

I’m probably thinking about this space wizards fan start too logically but yeah.

 

You and me both I think because and I do want to state that I LOVE this show, I'm totally hooked but thinking logically, if they have shown they can turn Crosshair up to 10 in terms of being a mindless drone, why move away from clones to less controllable recruits...or you know, why not use actual mindless drones?

 

Presumbaly because you can get the purest clones from the host. making a copy of a copy likely dilutes the result and degrades the quality.

 

Also, the Clones have "altered DNA" with rapid growth acceleration, etc. Omega, and Boba are exact copies with no manipulation, except being a "copy" of the original DNA, so I suspect that Boba and Omega have the "purest" DNA of Jango's.

 

I think it was just Boba and Omega

 

Is Omega supposed to be essentially Boba's twin? I mean was she created (albeit secretly) in a test tube at the same time as Boba by the Kaminoans - and possibly without Jango even knowing about it?

Obviously Boba aged somewhat through TCW; and Omega certainly looks younger than him (even looks younger than the live action Boba in AOTC). I guess they could've "produced" Omega more recently as a contingency plan as they realized the clones may have worn out their welcome.

 

Except that’s not how DNA works, otherwise we wouldn’t be able to utilize DNA the way we do in the real world. As I said I’m probably just thinking about this too logically given my work background and that it is a story not real life, it just bugs me a little.

This is my second point - that’s the whole reason why they’re using clones because they grow fast, bred for war etc. Each clone is technically a pure and refined copy of Jango’s DNA which, if that is what they’re after, should be more desirable than Jango’s own.

I think Omega was a little Kaminoan secret personally.

 

Well what do you know about real-life cloning?

 

I don’t work with cloning but I do with DNA, replication and that sort of thing. Cloning is not the same as dilution where you progressively make a less concentrated substance. DNA can degrade due to a variety of factors inherited or external but creating copies of “good” DNA does not impact on “quality”. On top of that it’s a fairly well known TV trope.

As I said - it’s a tv show about space wizards, has a lot of sci-fi tropes and it’s just one little really inconsequential thing that bugs me a tiny tiny bit. It’s not a deal breaker by any means.

 

I don't know what evidence there is in the Current Canon or even in the EU off the top of my head...

But it stands to reason that other cloning attempts, even by the expert Kaminoans, especially on this scale -- were not nearly as successful.

Perhaps it comes down to the fact that the Jango Fett template was so much more successful than any other previous attempt to build a clone army that makes his DNA so valuable?

Or, perhaps -- when the Kaminoans go to make their sales pitch to a potential new client -- offering the option of replicating the Clone Army of the Republic is a key selling point?

 

I wonder now, if Omega will come up in the Book of Boba Fett show.

 

If I could go back, I think I'd drop this one to a 7. Another gripe I've found is after the Bad Batch rescue Omega when there is the jump cut of the Batcher's shuttle shooting through the planet's atmosphere. They really should have extended it or just shown the Maurader already in space jumping to lightspeed. That way Tech could have been freed up to at least walk about and be part of the reunion instead of getting stuck off-screen flying.

 

At 9 minutes 11 seconds into the episode there's a brief glimpse at the Justifier's cargo hold. Any idea what those black objects with Republic military logos are supposed to be?

 

I can't believe how non-charlantly they killed off Taun-We. She was already mostly passed over in TCW and should have been Omega's caretaker instead. Kinda of sours me on that Bounty Hunter character, too.

 

This episode gets better with rewatches. I'll be thinking about it when I go to Carowinds next weekend. That little turn around and roll the boys do with their shuttle before going into hyperspace reminds me of the jojo roll and turn around of going into the first launch on Copperhead strike. To bad the launch is kind of weak. I wonder if any of the animators are roller-coaster fans like me.

 

That's called a barrel roll.

 

Don't suppress my imagination, LOL. As it turns out. Rollercoaster inversions tend to mimic aerobatics. The one mentioned has elements that follow a sequence that reminded me of that sequence in this episode. Slow barrel roll, turn around, launch. A barrel roll on a coaster is called a heartline roll. The jojo roll is a slow heartline roll. If you are going to pretend to go into hyperspace. Probably safest to do it on a decent coaster.

 

9/10

One of the best episodes of the show so far for me!

- The abandoned cloning facility was sufficiently creepy. Wonder why they abandoned it and what they were doing there?
- Cad Bane vs. Fennec Shand! And it seemed to me like Fennec was having the upper hand. Perhaps Bane is starting to get too old for this...
- More Kaminoan intrigue and politics are always welcome. But poor Taun We. Can't believe they just killed her like that.