ST The enigma of Vader's remains..

There was clearly something with volume in areas we know have to be flesh. But that doesn't mean they can't change that...

 

In the Jedi Academy trilogy Kyp durron goes to Endor to search for darkside artifacts, and he finds fragments of Vader's armor in an Ewok village. He takes hold of it and remarks about the Force power contained in due to the dark side. I wonder if they'd be willing to go the same route with Vader's armor in canon- I doubt it but it'd be cool.

 

I'm of the opinion he never disappeared.

Return of the Jedi seems pretty conclusive



also doesn't really give an answer but worth a watch

 

That's a pretty satisfying video. It explains a lot.

 

...Why do I think that doesn't sound too unrealistic? I have a bad feeling about this...

 

I don't think Uber is Vader since it is Andy Serkis playing Uber. I expect Uber will be an alien character.

 

There's no way that they'd be dumb enough to resurrect Vader to be the villain AGAIN! It's more likely that Vader's presence/legacy will still be felt throughout the Galaxy even 30+ years later. Which could be a clever way of technically including him in the movie without being ridiculously contrived about it.

 

I can only imagine the level of scorn and disdain that would inevitably be aimed at Disney/LFL if a resurrected Vader was in TFA and the ST.

 

Vader may be the most popular SW character out there (probably) amongst the general public. But even they'd call BS on bringing him back like that, especially since it craps all over the ending of ROTJ (which was extremely well-done).

 

At most, I'd say they'd bring back Vader in the form of an imposter wearing the same suit.

 

That would be so weak. If you're going to go that far you might as well bring back the real Darth Vader.

 

I think this Sith or wannabe is collector of Sith artifacts and is trying to gain power through them & resurrect a new Sith order.

 

I agree, I don't think they should do any of that, really

 

Even if they bring Vader to life again, what is he going to do? Play baseball with Luke?

 

If they bring Vader back it would be ridiculous. The pattern of Sith can't die would start & I guess we would see Palpy back in Episode 10. Remember they brought Maul back.

 

My guess is they turned Vaders helmet into an urn and it holds all of his ashy remains..

 

From the latest rumors it sounds like Kylo Ren locks himself in a room with this mask at night and talks to it. It reminds of Hamlet talking to a skull. Does anyone else get this reference?

 

Makes me wish for a Star Wars character named Yorick

 

If you think about that for too long, you really end up hoping he's not Leia's son.

 

^I think he is. It's a recycling of the Darth Caddus arch.

 

I'm still hoping not... I didn't like it in the EU, and I'll be a very unhappy toad here. I don't want twins or Jacen, or a Winter, and I certainly better not see Leia naming any of her kids Anakin, because that would not happen. But I more than hope, I think not. It would be too redundant. If they were going to do it, just film the EUY already.

 

I can understand not wanting something you don't like to happen but saying Leia would *not* name a son for her father is silly. Not to mention Anakin Solo existed just fine for years. I think it would be awesome if he may again in spirit because of what naming her son that would signify: making peace with the past and her truth.

 

I simply do not picture the character I saw naming her son Anakin, not in a million years. Why would anyone hand that albatross on their kid's neck? But hey, others can imagine otherwise, no skin off my nose, and I won't even call other people's opinion's "silly"

 

It's funny how things you have known for so long can change. I have watched that funeral pyre scene countless times without any thought. Now that we are discussing it, it is funny to think about. What did Luke do with the remains? Did he leave them, that seems unnatural to do. It was his father. I assume he took some of it, including the helmet. I think that the time frame over the last 30 years will tell some of this story in either a flashback or in the novels. It is important to know about Vader's lightsaber and helmet because it is part if not all of the plot point. We don't know how important they are until we see the story. It's hard to guess if its needed to see what happens to them until we see the story in motion. My guess is that the saga ended at ep 6. They needed some type of important motivation that we would be emotionally attached to to move a story forward. The loss of Vader's lightsaber at Cloud City was an unnoticed act in the OT. Now they put importance on it. It makes sense. Very good tie in to a bigger story now.

Here is my guess: Luke has the academy of some sort where both kids (assuming Leia and Han's) are there at a very young age, Rey and Ren. Something happens to Luke with the Force: either he is ambushed and the children are taken (assume Rey is on one of the people on the star cruisers that crashed on Jakku). Maybe Ren is stolen by the Sith Inquisitors on a different ship that doesn't crash. He goes one way, she goes another. Han and Leia can't find them. The existing Empire re writes itself under Vader's grandchild and Rey is lost and assumed dead. Han and Leia don't know that Ren is their child. They assume both kids are dead or lost. Luke feels responsible for the loss and a bigger feeling that the Force has awoken (whatever that means) and he must either go in hiding or go protect something. i also believe that Ren will somehow learn about his family tree from the recovery of the helmet or from a feeling that Luke and Leia lied about his past to him. The helmet and lightsaber will be significant to him to help him become what he was meant to be, which is probably driven by Uber for selfish reasons. Ren is a pawn for Uber. Who Uber is will be significant and we wont no what reveal right away. I assume Darth Plagueis or the Emperor himself possibly. Another assumption could be the light and dark side split Vader/Anakin's spirit??? Anakin goes to light side as a young force ghost but an older Vader force ghost is trying to resurrect himself?? I hope not but just a scary thought.

 

Well, if Vader does resurrect, at least he has a sense of humor.