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TV Discussion The Future of Star Wars on TV

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by ThatWanFromStewjon, Dec 5, 2012.

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TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast Staff Member Manager

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AvarandElzarsittininatree said: ↑

I wouldn't really say that Rebels ended in a situation where it was setting a sequel up. The main purpose of the show was to show us in animated form how the Rebel Alliance formed. The show did that.

I'd say if they wanted to tell us where Ezra and Thrawn went they should have officially just done Rebels season 5. Turning a live action Ahsoka series into a Rebels season 5 seemed pretty forced. Makes me kind of think it wasn't Filoni's choice to end the show after season 4.
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I think you kind of answered your own question there, so to speak.
Rebels was indeed about the build-up to the Rebellion we see in the OT, so the finale taking place a few months prior to the Battle of Yavin made sense, and it was a natural end point for the series.

With the epilogue they set up what would be next for the Rebels crew (or at least Sabine and Ahsoka), but with that taking place after the rebellion has ended, it wouldn't make sense to just have it be Rebels season 5. Instead that epilogue acted as a very clear sequel tease, and now we're getting that sequel. And as with most good sequels, it's similar to the original, but goes in its own direction.

TCF-1138 , Mar 18, 2025

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TCF-1138 said: ↑

AvarandElzarsittininatree said: ↑

I wouldn't really say that Rebels ended in a situation where it was setting a sequel up. The main purpose of the show was to show us in animated form how the Rebel Alliance formed. The show did that.

I'd say if they wanted to tell us where Ezra and Thrawn went they should have officially just done Rebels season 5. Turning a live action Ahsoka series into a Rebels season 5 seemed pretty forced. Makes me kind of think it wasn't Filoni's choice to end the show after season 4.
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I think you kind of answered your own question there, so to speak.
Rebels was indeed about the build-up to the Rebellion we see in the OT, so the finale taking place a few months prior to the Battle of Yavin made sense, and it was a natural end point for the series.

With the epilogue they set up what would be next for the Rebels crew (or at least Sabine and Ahsoka), but with that taking place after the rebellion has ended, it wouldn't make sense to just have it be Rebels season 5. Instead that epilogue acted as a very clear sequel tease, and now we're getting that sequel. And as with most good sequels, it's similar to the original, but goes in its own direction.
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Than the live action show Filoni did should have just been called Rebels (or a title that strongly alluded to the continuation of the Rebels animated series).. Criticism that they took the Ahsoka name (a character that was far more popular than any of the characters from Rebels) as a vehicle to further tell the story of these characters from Rebels is warranted.

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AvarandElzarsittininatree, Mar 18, 2025

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Name recognition is branding. Its why shows and movies does it

Jedi Master Frizzy, Mar 18, 2025

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AvarandElzarsittininatree said: ↑

Than the live action show Filoni did should have just been called Rebels. Criticism that they took the Ahsoka name (a character that was far more popular than any of the characters from Rebels) as a vehicle to further tell the story of these characters from Rebels is warranted.
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But they're not rebels anymore, so why should it be called Rebels? Again, that story was finished.

And Ahsoka 1) is in that final sequel hook scene in the epilogue, so her inclusion in that story (which was also foreshadowed in Ezra's and Ahsoka's last meeting in World Between Worlds: "when you get back, come find me") is perfectly logical, and 2) is still the main character of the show Ahsoka.

TCF-1138 , Mar 18, 2025

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TCF-1138 said: ↑

AvarandElzarsittininatree said: ↑

Than the live action show Filoni did should have just been called Rebels. Criticism that they took the Ahsoka name (a character that was far more popular than any of the characters from Rebels) as a vehicle to further tell the story of these characters from Rebels is warranted.
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But they're not rebels anymore, so why should it be called Rebels? Again, that story was finished.

And Ahsoka 1) is in that final sequel hook scene in the epilogue, so her inclusion in that story (which was also foreshadowed in Ezra's and Ahsoka's last meeting in World Between Worlds: "when you get back, come find me") is perfectly logical, and 2) is still the main character of the show Ahsoka.
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Right. Ahsoka was still the central character of the show, as was Andor in Andor. Despite featuring multiple characters, and multiple perspectives, the stories of each show revolve around these characters. So the titles of the shows are perfectly appropriate.

This is an incredibly weak critique.

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Bor Mullet, Mar 18, 2025

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Bor Mullet said: ↑

Right. Ahsoka was still the central character of the show, as was Andor in Andor. Despite featuring multiple characters, and multiple perspectives, the stories of each show revolve around these characters. So the title of the shows is perfectly appropriate.

This is an incredibly weak critique.
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I agree, though I will admit that I think they're boring titles. Same for Obi-Wan Kenobi.
I prefer my Star Wars with a bit more imagination to the titles, and I feel that the Character Name titles are a bit... Marvel-y, I guess? They say nothing about the shows, except who's the main character.

But honestly, I don't care enough about it to actually complain. Except maybe for the fact that it makes it every so slightly more difficult to talk about the shows, as you need to specify if you're talking about the character or the show, but that's more of a Terminal JCF User problem than any sort of actual issue with the shows.

TCF-1138 , Mar 18, 2025

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TCF-1138 said: ↑

Bor Mullet said: ↑

Right. Ahsoka was still the central character of the show, as was Andor in Andor. Despite featuring multiple characters, and multiple perspectives, the stories of each show revolve around these characters. So the title of the shows is perfectly appropriate.

This is an incredibly weak critique.
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I agree, though I will admit that I think they're boring titles. Same for Obi-Wan Kenobi.
I prefer my Star Wars with a bit more imagination to the titles, and I feel that the Character Name titles are a bit... Marvel-y, I guess? They say nothing about the shows, except who's the main character.

But honestly, I don't care enough about it to actually complain. Except maybe for the fact that it makes it every so slightly more difficult to talk about the shows, as you need to specify if you're talking about the character or the show, but that's more of a Terminal JCF User problem than any sort of actual issue with the shows.
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I call Andor “The Rebellion Strikes Back.”

Bor Mullet, Mar 18, 2025

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The latest egregious example being Ventress, who had a meaningful, finished character arc, and then has been brought back for no reason other than empty fan service.
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It all depends on what he does with the character. I don't want to see another BoBF, where I'm still not sure why he returned to the GFFA, other than as a vehicle for Mando. There is simply so much to Ventress, so many places her story could go. I could easily see her doing black ops for the Rebellion.
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I was just happy to see him bursting out of the sarlacc...id been waiting years for that... So I was made up with that

darthfettus2015, Mar 18, 2025

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A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service Staff Member Administrator

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We need more BoBF if only to find out if water was ever made more affordable.

A Chorus of Disapproval , Mar 18, 2025

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A Chorus of Disapproval said: ↑

We need more BoBF if only to find out if water was ever made more affordable.
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We need to find out if the Banthas finally made Baby Banthas once they were free to roam the Dune Sea.

darkspine10, Mar 18, 2025

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starfish Chosen One

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I want to know what happened to the conductor droid that jumped out of the train and ran off into the desert

starfish, Mar 18, 2025

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darthfettus2015 said: ↑

I was just happy to see him bursting out of the sarlacc...id been waiting years for that...
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Yeah I had also been waiting since about '91 or '92 to see how he did it...

Cos Palpatine, Mar 18, 2025

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Cos Palpatine said: ↑

darthfettus2015 said: ↑

I was just happy to see him bursting out of the sarlacc...id been waiting years for that...
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Yeah I had also been waiting since about '91 or '92 to see how he did it...

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Id been waiting longer as I never did any of the EU stuff

darthfettus2015, Mar 18, 2025

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Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost

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I never cared for it, lol

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Jedi Master Frizzy, Mar 18, 2025

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SyndicThrass Force Ghost

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Yeah, you and Ken Napzok.

SyndicThrass, Mar 19, 2025

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Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost

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I am sure others too, he was simply such minor character

Jedi Master Frizzy, Mar 19, 2025

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starfish said: ↑

I want to know what happened to the conductor droid that jumped out of the train and ran off into the desert
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You'll love the upcoming series on Disney+, titled "The conductor droid that jumped out of the train and ran off into the desert: A Star Wars Story".

EHT, Mar 19, 2025

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I would love that, but it needs a better title that makes a for a good acronym

starfish, Mar 19, 2025

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TCDTJOOTTAROITD seems pretty good to me!

Darth Chiznuk, Mar 19, 2025

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starfish Chosen One

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that sounds about right

starfish, Mar 19, 2025

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TCF-1138 said: ↑

Bor Mullet said: ↑

Right. Ahsoka was still the central character of the show, as was Andor in Andor. Despite featuring multiple characters, and multiple perspectives, the stories of each show revolve around these characters. So the title of the shows is perfectly appropriate.

This is an incredibly weak critique.
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I agree, though I will admit that I think they're boring titles. Same for Obi-Wan Kenobi.
I prefer my Star Wars with a bit more imagination to the titles, and I feel that the Character Name titles are a bit... Marvel-y, I guess? They say nothing about the shows, except who's the main character.

But honestly, I don't care enough about it to actually complain. Except maybe for the fact that it makes it every so slightly more difficult to talk about the shows, as you need to specify if you're talking about the character or the show, but that's more of a Terminal JCF User problem than any sort of actual issue with the shows.
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My guess would be that "marketing people" somewhere a long the line have pushed the idea that net series need a very descriptive title in order to get a wide appeal, perhaps because audiences tend to get exposed to trailers to them a bit less than they do for films?

I do think Andor could really be a blueprint for a lot of content from the "imperial" era, personally I think SW should probably be divided between post OT content of a more Mando/Ahsoka tone(a bit more larger than life) and OT or post PT pre OT content which is more like Andor in tone.

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moreorless12, Mar 21, 2025

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Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost

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Character or simple names sell

Jedi Master Frizzy, Mar 21, 2025

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EHT said: ↑

starfish said: ↑

I want to know what happened to the conductor droid that jumped out of the train and ran off into the desert
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You'll love the upcoming series on Disney+, titled "The conductor droid that jumped out of the train and ran off into the desert: A Star Wars Story".
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Don't you mean The Conductor Droid Who Went Up a Hill but Came Down a Mountain

I Are The Internets, Mar 21, 2025

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Jedi Master Frizzy said: ↑

Character or simple names sell
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Source?

TCF-1138 , Mar 21, 2025

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Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost

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Source on what, it shows in their recent marketing on shows

Jedi Master Frizzy, Mar 21, 2025

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