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The Holocaust distinguished from WWII........

Discussion in 'Archive: The Senate Floor' started by AWB1989, Apr 25, 2003.

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  1. RednepSuS

    RednepSuS Jedi Padawan star 4

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    EDIT No. 1138

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    EDIT No. 1139

    I will not edit this post again. I promise you.

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  2. Ardiff

    Ardiff Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Many black and asian people in the german army? I am a German, and this is new for me.

    There were the indian (I mean - from India) legion, yes. And SOME soldiers of the asian parts of the Soviet Union. But most of this Wlassow-scum and simelar units were slavic people. And there are people from the Ukraine, Whiterussia, the baltic states and from other countries in Europe. But black? That can't be many!

    Perhaps you are mistaken in time. In the FIRST World War many black people fight in the german colonies, I think.

    By the way, it is new for me, that catholiks were same victims as jews. I think this is wrong. Jews, Zinti and Roma was the people, who the Nazis want to kill ALL. From the slavic people, I think, they "dream" to kill several millions, the ofter they want as slaves. There were oppression oft catholik people too, but less than against jews. And a lot of catholic priests and catholic people (in Germany, Austria and in Kroatia for example) cooperate with the nazis.

    I think, some methods of Israel ARE extremly wrong. I don't know how many innocent people die, but I think, many of them are arabs - not only jews. And for a mother, how lost her child because of a missile attac, I think it is simelar than to lost it by a kamikaze-attac. Israel as an Terrorist? I think not. But they act wrong, I think...

    I think, in many exterminations-camps the dead were buried in mass-graves. Later they were burned, when the nazis become afraid, that alied forces will free the regions, were the graves lie. (My english is not SO good, so I can't say it better)
     
  3. AWB1989

    AWB1989 Jedi Master star 5

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    I think, new was the "extermination camps". Camps, how work only to kill people. Belzec, Maidanek, Treblinka I think. In this camp, there wasn't any selection. All people, ho arrived, were killed (only a few live a bit longer, If the German need workers to burry the dead people and so one).

    Well, there were survivors. Aside from that, they had the slaves bury bodies and clean up the streets in the ghetto. I don't think it was like that in the concentration camps, not 100% sure, though. As far as I know, the bodies were burned in the concentration camps. Or ditched as Wolf said.

    They killed a lot of Catholics as well. The Jews were just the most publisized people killed.

    I wouldn't say just publicized more. Before the war, if a Jew walked by a Nazi, he or she would have to bow or the Nazi would beat them, or kill them. It's also how they were treated BEFORE the war. As far as I know, blacks, asians, catholics, etc. weren't treated like that before the war.

    There were many black and asian people fighting in the German Army.

    And they were hated. This may or may not be true, I don't know. But, similarly, there was a Jewish Police allowed by Germany.

    I think, in many exterminations-camps the dead were buried in mass-graves.

    This happened too. They were burried by the other camp inmates.

    Later they were burned, when the nazis become afraid, that alied forces will free the regions, were the graves lie.

    That sounds accurate. Also, in the end of the war, I assume it was because the Nazis were afraid: they put many remaining camp inmates on the Thielbeck and the Cap Arcona to be drowned, but, luckily, the British came and bombed the boats, and saved as many victims as possible.
     
  4. Chewsocka

    Chewsocka Jedi Youngling

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    This is a tangled issue, historically speaking. The Nazis practiced euthanasia long before the war even broke out, on handicapped, sick and infirm individuals. Look into the T4 program. Furthermore, it can be argued that the extermination of Jews, Roma (gypsies), homosexuals, largely started because the local governors simply did not know what to do with them all. Why, before 1941 or so, did the Nazis plan to move the Jews out of their lands, conquered or otherwise? Why didn't they simply murder them from the outset of gaining control in the early 30s? There are many different views and answers to that question that requires lots and lots of reading. Of course, that doesn't change or exonerate them from the end result. Historians have spent lifetimes trying to figure this out.
     
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