The Mandalorian The Mandalorian Season 2 Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

Would love to see them go to a planet that has some planetary defense forces in play. Not saying a Star Destroyer but something like the old Rendili Light Corvette.

 

Well, we are going to the city of Calodan next week.

 

The leak doesn’t seem that far off but

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I don’t really think Baby Yoda ever trained on Coruscant like the leaker said and his name that got leaked seems very unlikely.Everything else seems possible though.

 

I don’t buy that leak for a second. outside of casting news LFL have run a ridiculously tight ship without leaks this season and they somehow manage to stuff up and the plot of this possibly monumental episode gets leaked? Unless Bad Robot has taken over production I wouldn’t put any stock in this.

 

I think there's possible elements of truth to it, for example it was rumored that Jamie Lee Curtis was to feature in this season, the magistrate role sounds ideal for her...

Seems like at this point in the timeline the Marshalls and Magistrates of planets are holding **** together while the New Republic fly around doing their best world police impression.

 

I’ll admit if I’m wrong but at this point I just think LFL has a good hand on keeping secrets just that and we’re unlikely to have leaks such as this concerning Mando.

 

What podcasts are people listening to between episodes to get their Mandalorian fix?

I've been really enjoying "The Mandalorian Watch" - I was searching for an alternative to the Resistance Broadcast's offering which I had been listening to fairly regularly over the last couple of years, John Hooey started irritating me so thought I'd give it a break and go back to it at a later date when my Hooey tolerance had reached reasonable levels again.

I always enjoy the content Steele Saunders puts out but it isn't really structured enough for me to listen to on my walk too and from work, feel like it's more an around the house listen. I gave the Star Wars Explained after show a go when the guys from Force Center were on and really enjoyed it, but haven't really been interested in any of the other guest pairings so haven't gone back...

I've enjoyed New Rockstars Mandalorian content too, the breakdowns in particular are very good, the Wookieleaks podcast they do is hit and miss and I fear that the co-presenter Tommy is going to eventually grate on me to the Hooey degree, but I only tend to put that on if I'm cooking.

As I say, really can't recommend The Mandalorian Watch enough, pick of the bunch for me at the moment.

 

Really wish we would see other NR fighters than the X-Wing and other color flight suits and types of helmets.

 

It's funny how The Mandalorian upends one of the main Star Wars tropes of loss/lack of a father and instead focuses on being/becoming one..

 

The external plot is what's interesting to me though. And what they have set up now is, or was, a nice, tight compact story. And the overall big picture is what's most interesting to me. And Din and the child forming a father and son relationship is fine. Do that for three seasons though, not five. Three is somewhat interesting, five is tedious as hell.

This is how I'm looking at this, the big picture (with fan casts galore)...

Do three seasons of the child with Din. Do three seasons of the child with Ahsoka. And do however many seasons you want of the child with Sebastian Stan Luke (and Billie Lourd Leia and Ben Taylor young Ben, throw in a Alden Ehrenreich Han, and Jedi academy, etc.); say six seasons, or nine seasons or whatever. It's Luke, do it for as long as you want. Takes us up to the flashback in Last Jedi. Do something like that. Have the child be our R2 for this era in the galaxy.

Spend four or five seasons with just Din and the child and that's it for the child? Okay, I guess. It's a waste, in my opinion, but okay.

And if the rumors of what's going to happen in the Ahsoka episode are true (and I watched the YouTube video of it, and while what was said sounds a little over the top, I could see them doing something like that; and of course there's a lot of red flags in that video too, but of course all will be revealed soon)... but yeah, if true, then four or five seasons of Din and the child is looking like what they're going to do. And if so, le sigh.

So I'm a big picture guy when it comes to Star Wars. It's hard not to be, right?

When does that Obi-Wan series start? Because now more than ever, "Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope."

 

Mate, the show is called "The Mandalorian" - they're not going to retire the titular character.

Favreau said in Variety before the season 2 premiere that the heart of the show is the relationship between Din and his adopted son.

That aside, I'm an open minded fan and could accept the idea of Stam as a 40 something post ROTJ, Luke - but the idea of Alden Ehrenreich coming in and playing an older version of Han is horrible, just horrible.
I enjoyed his performance in Solo, but man alive.

 

Are you saying The Mandalorian season 4-6 should involve Ahsoka and BY, in addition to bringing in several other big names? This is the last thing I want.

This show is called The Mandalorian. It plucks out pockets of events set outside, but tied to, the big picture. Having some working cameos spread out is ok, but this isn't the Ahsoka show for jittery Rebels/Clone Wars fanatics.

It's been such a breath of fresh air not hearing about the damned jedi for a change. Pretty please with sugar on top, don't muck up this show as well.

I'm sorry for being overly hostile. You're entitled to your own wishes of course. It's just that..well, the force may always be present but it doesn't have to dominate every aspect of star wars.

 

Based on what you are looking for out of The Mandalorian, vs what The Mandalorian actually is, I think that, ultimately, you are going to find that this series winds up being - in your words - "tedious as hell." This show isn't about the big picture. It orbits around the big picture.

Also, there is no saying that this is the last we will see of the Child after this show is completed. The Child (and Din, for that matter, depending on how far in the future we're talking) can absolutely move on into other stories once this is done. Plenty of characters moved from The Clone Wars to Rebels (though "legacy" characters often jump from one show to the next to supplement the new show's narrative, not to drive it). But while The Mandalorian is on the air... I see no conceivable way in which the narrative is going to send the Child off to someone like Luke or Ahsoka and then just wash their hands of him. Nor would I want them to. Din and the Child's relationship is this show.

The "external" plot that you seem to place more value more in than the actual bond between the two main characters is important to the series, sure, but only in so much as it frames the context of the galaxy for Din and the Child. This show isn't just a "bridge" to get us from RotJ to TFA. We aren't going to be taking extended detours away from the two leads to go check in on Luke and Leia and the central hub of the New Republic... though we might see shifts in the New Republic's style of rule, and their grasp on the galaxy, if those shifts then spiral down from the macro scale of the galaxy to the micro scale of the show's particular focus and have ripple effects that specifically shift the paradigm of the part of the story in which Din and the Child are currently operating in.

Take Nevarro's transition from a " wretched hive of scum and villainy" in season one to a prospering frontier town in Chapter 12, and the New Republic officer's investigation as he then tries to bring Cara into the fold - there's definitely "external" plot stuff about the transitioning state of the galaxy going on there, but what's actually important to the show the emotional impact on the smaller scale, the way that this turn of events showcases that Din and his friends' actions last season had very positive effects on this world. It is payoff for the characters that we are following within the body of the series, not payoff for the "external" plot.

So yeah, The Mandalorian is going to be four or five or however many seasons of Din and the Child, otherwise, it will cease to be The Mandalorian. Maybe years down the line, after this show is over and some other property takes the Child and implements him into another story, you might find something more in line with what you're looking for here.

 

The twist is baby yoda was batman all along.

 

Alden Ehrenreich is awesome.

Or find someone else to play Han, I don't care. But Alden Ehrenreich is okay.

Anyway...

No, wrap The Mandalorian up and get on with it.

Or just have The Mandalorian be about Mandalorians and get the child out of there and get on with bigger things.

Okay, here's the thing... And I see what you're saying and I understand it. It's not like what you're saying doesn't make any sense.

But here's the thing: have you seen what that rumors are for the Ahsoka episode? And if you haven't or don't want to be spoiled, then yeah, I'm obviously not going to spoil it for you or anyone else.

But if the rumor is true, then having the child spend four or five seasons with Din is a colossal waste of time. And I was being generous before by just saying that I think it's a waste. No, it's a colossal waste of time and character. Sure, at a future date have the child look back on Din and have moments like that. And sure, have Din appear and visit the child later on or whatever. Do any and all of that.

Again though, if the rumor of what happens in the episode is true, then let's reconvene and look at this four or five season thing with Din thing. It's like, get the child to Ahsoka (or whomever) to get the child to Luke. And let Din go and do whatever Mandalorian stuff. We got Jedi business to do.

"You gotta let Luke leave Tatooine." You gotta let the child leave Din. When and how, who knows, but it has to happen (if the rumor is true).

 

Not sure if trolling or serious.

 

No, I have not read the rumors. But whatever Ahsoka's role may be - and I will find that out Friday morning, when I sit down to watch the episodes without any rumors or spoilers swirling around in my head - I very much doubt that I am going to come out of the episode viewing her as a way to "remove" the Child from the series.

I love the character of Ahsoka. I absolutely love her, and I cannot wait to see what she brings in her appearance here. But I just don't see Favreau and Filoni using her as this piece that is going to enter the show, tear out half of the show's identity, and then exit scene to move onto bigger and better things. If Din and the Child's relationship was never going to amount to anything more than a "quest" that they could rush through to get the Child off of the show, then there would have been no point in even making The Mandalorian in the first place. Doing something like that just sounds like the kind of boneheaded filmmaking going on with The Walking Dead and its seemingly infinite array of spinoffs that are constantly plucking characters from the "parent" series.

 

You get it, man.
Don’t worry, JF is quoted as saying he understands that the heart of the show is the relationship between Din and the child, there’s literally zero chance of the child (or Din) suddenly exiting the show.

 

No, serious.

And it doesn't look like what I want to happen will happen, as far Ahsoka is concerned. But what looks to be what's going to happen is... "Oh?!"

Oh, then I will say no more then...

Other than, yeah, I think Ahsoka is going to be awesome, based on what's been said.

And yeah, reading what's been posted to me was like, "Oh, okay." After watching the Youtube video though, it was like, "OHHHHH, okay." It was a little different.

And this is the last time that I will mention the rumors.

 

I never really thought about the idea that the next episode could again be a side quest episode where Mando has to help someone with something again. but that does seem to be the way this series is going, so i wouldn't be shocked if there was some truth to those so called leaks. the structure does seem to be help me and i'l help you, then Mando leaves to find the princess in another castle.

 

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The video game side quest seems consistent with what's been going on the show so far, so I'm guessing that bit is legit

 

Hey, uhhh, can we maybe not talk about the leaks, even in vague terms, without using spoiler tags?