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The Movie and Television Character Draft (Champion/Dude/EF/Duncan lol/Winner --- EmpireForever!!)

Discussion in 'Archive: Census and Games' started by DarthIntegral, Nov 7, 2006.

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  1. The_Chim

    The_Chim Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I don't see why the beheading thing is so big? If I am fighting someone with a sword I am going to go for a vital part of their body, head, neck, heart, crotch, you know-- the usual.
     
  2. Zizz

    Zizz Jedi Master star 4

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    In Morpheus's world, you stab someone and he dies. Once he manages to stab (which won't be extremely easy) or shoot Highlander, he'll find out that that's not going to kill him. So what is he going to do?

    Against a prep character, or someone with a lot of tech/explosives, the Highlander guys aren't really anything special. Just guys with sword fighting abilities. they'd be taken down wuite easily. but against an uninformed character like Morpheus, they will fight for some time before their opposition either realizes that they have to be beheaded, or just do it by accident. Morpheus is pretty fast, but it's not like he can dodge bullets. He's not going to be THAT much better than your typical swordfighter in this draft.

    I'd still give it to Morph, but it's not a blowout.
     
  3. Tyi-Maet_Nefer

    Tyi-Maet_Nefer Jedi Master star 6

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    Highlander doesn't shoot bullets, though. ;)

    But I know what you mean.
     
  4. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    Ok, Morpheus is quick, but he's not too incredibly fast. The other freed humans are much slower than Neo, and even much slower than the agents. They're faster than your average guy, yeah, but they're certainly not dodging bullets, except in typical movie fashion when the bad guys couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
     
  5. Axle-Starweilder

    Axle-Starweilder Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    and let us not forget that the highlander has undergone the "quickening"!
    so yeah, he's hella fast too.
     
  6. The_Chim

    The_Chim Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I'd think with his 'downloadable' knowledge and abilities Morpheus is just as experienced and has the same level of ability as or pretty close, to Highlander.
     
  7. Axle-Starweilder

    Axle-Starweilder Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    but he's not prepped.
     
  8. Mikaboshi

    Mikaboshi Force Ghost star 6

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    Matrix characters can download stuff on the fly though right? At least I thought they could. For instance if Neo needed to fly a helicopter he would just download the files that would teac him to fly right?

    He doesn't really need prep for that would he?
     
  9. Axle-Starweilder

    Axle-Starweilder Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    but he still needs to go through the act of ordering his techniques on the fly.
    he'd need to get out his cell phone and call up the matrix and say: "hey, tank, i need to know how to kill connor macleod!" in that time, connor could handily cut his telephone in half and go agent smith on his ass.
     
  10. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    Yeah, they don't just download the stuff. He'd have to get away from the fighting, unless you think he could hold off Macleod with one hand, and get on his phone.
     
  11. Mikaboshi

    Mikaboshi Force Ghost star 6

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    Ahhh, forgot about that part. My Matrix knowledge isn't the best. :p
     
  12. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Jedi Commish star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Inty Judgments!

    David Lo Pan (Big Trouble in Little China) (Prepared) vs. Achilles (Troy)

    Not a whole lot of trouble for Lo Pan here. I think he'd take it without prep time, and with it, it makes it pretty much a slam dunk. This version of Achilles can't handle him at all.

    Winner: David Lo Pan

    John McClane (Die Hard) (forfeit) vs. Davey Jones (Pirates of the Caribbean) (Prepared)

    Winner: Jones

    Morpheus (The Matrix) vs. Connor MacLeod (Highlander)

    I'm not too impressed with Morpheus as an unprepared character. With preptime, he probably becomes close to top-tier, but without it, he's gonna get overmatched more often than not, I think. That's the case here. MacLeod has enough skill and more than enough durability to frustrate Morpheus and take him down.

    Winner: Connor

    Egon Spengler (Ghostbusters) (Prepared) vs. Tron (Tron) (Prepared)

    Prepared Tron is simply on another level than most characters in this draft, except those you wouldn't waste prep time on. His defense will be amazing, and he'll have close to perfect accuracy with his attacks. don't see him losing this one.

    Winner: Tron

    Mr. Hand (Dark City) vs. Mr. Inredible (The Incredibles)

    I could see Mr. Hand taking this one, if he were able to make it a long, drawn-out match. That said, Mr. Incredible has the power and the mindset to make this a quick match, and I see him overpowering Hand before Hand has a chance to turn the tables.

    But, I could be wrong.

    Winner: Mr. Incredible

    Dubmledore (Harry Potter) vs. Imhotep (The Mummy)

    Toughest match of the round, but I think Dumbledore is probably the tiniest bit better, especially with no prep time. If you throw in prep time on both guys, Imhotep probably takes it, but without prep time, he simply won't be ready to counter Dumbledore, let alone be ready to mount a good enough offense.

    Winner: Dumbledore

    King Kong (King Kong) vs. Han (Enter the Dragon)

    lol

    Winner: kong

    Broken Sword (Hero) vs. Vice Counsel DuPont (Equilibrium)
    Not overly familiar with either of these, just going on reviews, recaps and the such here. That said, I think Broken Sword is probably better, and hence gets my vote. But, I won't be shocked to see the other judges go the other way on this one.

    Winner: Broken Sword
     
  13. Drac39

    Drac39 Chosen One star 6

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    David Lo Pan (Big Trouble in Little China) (Prepared) vs. Achilles (Troy)

    Lo Pan is just too powerful for Achilles to take. Maybe a flesh wound to Lo Pan but that would only make Achilles' death slower and more painful....

    Winner: David Lo Pan

    John McClane (Die Hard) (forfeit) vs. Davey Jones (Pirates of the Caribbean) (Prepared)

    Winner: Jones

    Morpheus (The Matrix) vs. Connor MacLeod (Highlander)

    I totally disagree Inty, Morpheus is intelligent and has equal or greater skills to MacLeods. Morpheus has the advantage of being able to incorporate his intelligence into martial arts thus being able to last longer aganist superior foes.

    Winner:Morpheus

    Egon Spengler (Ghostbusters) (Prepared) vs. Tron (Tron) (Prepared)

    Not even close. Egon is smart but there is no way he will be able to come up with a weapon or plan that would even scratch Tron.

    Winner: Tron

    Mr. Hand (Dark City) vs. Mr. Inredible (The Incredibles)

    I have to give this one to Hand simply because of his intelligence. I just can't see someone like Hand being defeated by Incredible. ALl though Hand isn't as strong as Incredible I see him being able to devise a trap based on Incredible's cocky side.

    Winner: Mr.Hand

    Dubmledore (Harry Potter) vs. Imhotep (The Mummy)

    Gotta go with Imhotep here. Dumbeldore is a mere wizard who with time any magic being can become as skilled as, but Imhotep has curses at his disposal and is much more agile than Dumbledore. Imhotep also has the advantage of being undead, thus being able to sustain more damage without being killed.Imhotep's powers are above Dumbledores because of the theological origins behind them.


    Winner: Imhotep

    King Kong (King Kong) vs. Han (Enter the Dragon)

    Pwned

    Winner: Kong

    Broken Sword (Hero) vs. Vice Counsel DuPont (Equilibrium)
    Sword is just too fast for Dupont. His skills are just too overwhelming for DuPont. DuPont is smart and won't be killed off too early but in the end Sword will win due to his martial arts abilities.

    Winner: Broken Sword
     
  14. Tyi-Maet_Nefer

    Tyi-Maet_Nefer Jedi Master star 6

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    I'm in the mood and since I don't have a match myself, two things.

    1) Morph vs Mac. What EF said is true, Morph couldn't dodge gunfire. He's not as fast as Neo; and Agents can defeat him, although he gives them one hell of a ride (remember the fight on top of the semi in Reloaded). But MacLeod's not an Agent. Isn't he just human in physical form and ability? Morph doesn't have prep, yes, but he doesn't need it against MacLeod I would think. Mac doesn't have guns. And if we were to look at the fight between Morpheus and Neo when he was training him; he moves damn well. And fast. Wouldn't he be capable of defeating Macleod hand-to-hand or sword-to-sword? On top of that, wouldn't Morph have gun(s) himself? All the Matrix fella's usually carry them. Plus, I would think it would be hard to frustrate Morpheus.... ;)

    I guess that's kind of directed at Inty since Drac gave him the win in the first place. :p

    Right, 2) Broken Sword vs. Vice Counsel DuPont. This is for the both of you. :p In this situation, with a very capable gunman in DuPont... would not the fact that it's guns verses sword lean you towards DuPont? Broken Sword is a very good swordsman, and very fast himself. But he never displayed any feats like Nameless in speed or deflection ability if any comparison was drawn there. DuPont knows gun kata, something that has been tossed around on occasion. His efficiency with his gun would cut Broken Sword down before he got close enough... in my view.

    Food for thought.
     
  15. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Jedi Commish star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Well, my reasoning on DuPont vs. Sword was going to be "I like Aragorn and don't like Shurron", but I thought that might be too obvious. :p
     
  16. Tyi-Maet_Nefer

    Tyi-Maet_Nefer Jedi Master star 6

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    :p And Morpheus?
     
  17. Shadow_of_Durron

    Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Knight star 6

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    I don't mind it. I thought it was pretty close, I dig Broken Sword and it's not really a crucial, must-win battle for me, so I didn't argue it.

    Still, BS (lol) has never seen a gun before. He doesn't know what it does, and while the Hero badassess like Nameless, Snow, etc, seem to be fast enough to block and dodge arrows and stuff, there's really no assurance whatsoever that they could dodge a bullet, much less several of them, especially when they've never, ever seen one.

    And BS may be on the same level of skill as Nameless, Tyi is right, he hasn't displayed the same uber speed. That's NL's big thing, and it's what had all their jaws on the floor. His speed. And BS doesn't have a documented "unblockable" move within ten feet like NL does.

    And DuPont isn't just a guy with a gun. He's a martial artist, same as BS. It's just his weapon is a gun, vice a sword. And nope, he's obviously not as good as Preston, but he's still incredibly good. BS may be able to dodge bullets from some average chump taking a couple shots at him, but this guy is anything but average when it comes to firearms.

    So yeah, I don't really agree with the call, but I'm really only bringing this up now because I have nothing better to do at the moment and felt like some good ol' typing. No biggie. I suppose I could bring videos, but nah. I don't wanna cram pimpage.

    And Me > Aragorn. His beard is nappy and he smells of aged cheddar.
     
  18. Aragorn327

    Aragorn327 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I happen to like that smell, thank you very much.
     
  19. JediKnight20043

    JediKnight20043 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  20. Tyi-Maet_Nefer

    Tyi-Maet_Nefer Jedi Master star 6

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    The real question is how you acquire such a smell. :p


    We need Prenn for a few of these matches, it seems.
     
  21. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Jedi Commish star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    actually, we need Chim. I'm filling in for Prenn
     
  22. Tyi-Maet_Nefer

    Tyi-Maet_Nefer Jedi Master star 6

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  23. The_Chim

    The_Chim Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Sorry it took me so long to respond. I forgot to check this thread in the last couple days and I was waiting to see if anyone wanted to post anything on matches. I guess I'm only needed for 3 matches? Well I'm gonna do them all because I feel like it.



    David Lo Pan (Big Trouble in Little China) (Prepared) vs. Achilles (Troy)

    Well prep brings down the house here. Achilles has an obvious weakness and Lo Pan, probably prepped or not would be able to exploit it. He has some weird as hell powers from what I remember of the movie, just some creepy stuff.

    David Lo Pan likes it on top.


    John McClane (Die Hard) (forfeit) vs. Davey Jones (Pirates of the Caribbean) (Prepared)

    Winner by forfeit and prepared for it: Jones, Davey Jones


    Morpheus (The Matrix) vs. Connor MacLeod (Highlander)

    I think Morpheus has just as much, if not more, ability and skill than Connor. Morpheus has the skills to fight with an agent in melee, granted he does 'lose', but that is because the agent has more endurance than he does. If he had some prep smacked on him no question in my mind he would take it. I'm not sure what Morpheus gets to have as weaponry for this match, a gun, his sword? Well assuming he gets his sword and or a gun I hink I am going to go with him in this one.

    Winner: More-Fee-Us


    Egon Spengler (Ghostbusters) (Prepared) vs. Tron (Tron) (Prepared)

    Well Egon is Prepped, and so is Tron.

    Winner: One, two, three, four [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/sparrows/01tron.jpg]
    TRON


    Mr. Hand (Dark City) vs. Mr. Inredible (The Incredibles)

    I like Mr. Inredible[\i] here. I think with prep Hand might have taken it but without it, the speed, endurance, and strength of Mr. Incredible wins the day.

    Winner: Not Mr.Hand


    Dubmledore (Harry Potter) vs. Imhotep (The Mummy)

    I realize that this is the movie/t.v. draft but I am taking the magical abilities I have read about and know in the Harry Potter book series. Dumbles is the most powerful wizard in the Harry Potter universe. He has so much magical ability, he can teleport, summon his phoenix patronus, he has access to any spell from the series, defensive and offensive spells. He can block or counter as many curses as Imotep can toss at him. I am going to have to go with Dumbledore on this one.


    Winner: Stumble-snore


    King Kong (King Kong) vs. Han (Enter the Dragon)

    lol & Pwned

    Winner: Kring Krong


    Broken Sword (Hero) vs. Vice Counsel DuPont (Equilibrium)
    I was never impressed in the movie with DuPont. Then again I have never seen Hero so....but none of the matters anyway, my judgement isn't needed. Right?

    Winner: Me


    New matches......here we come.
     
  24. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    I'm not entirely sure what just happened there...
     
  25. BartSimpson-SithLord

    BartSimpson-SithLord Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Incredible is still human, he still can be put to sleep for crying out loud. It's kind of what Hand and Book do, aside from their TK. Good grief, Hand should've won that.
     
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