ST The New Definitely Not Improved Even More Horrible Than The Last Two Rumors Thread

So Batuu is a planet that is going to be used at the theme park... What is important about it and what is the connection to ep 9? (as opposed to The Mandalorian for example)

 

Why does everything have to turn into an argument? Batuu may be important in the films and TV shows. Or it may not be. We don’t know. We’re speculating. There are some hints that it may be connected to IX, but they’re just hints so far. No need to fight about it.

 

Lmao sure

 

The Falcon is already at Batuu in between VIII and IX. Which for Batuu to appear in IX, the movie would either have to start on Batuu, or the Falcon left Batuu only to have to come back there yet again later on.

 

Is that directed at me...? I have never heard of Batuu and just saw it popping up a lot in the last few posts as I was (admittedly) skim reading, so was genuinely asking - Is it a place confirmed for ep 9? Is it a place confirmed for the T.V shows? I assume it is confirmed for the theme park. I don't read anything other than the forums and watch the films. I'm not engaging anyone in any argument

 

I don't think Batuu is in Episode 9. I really do think something like that would have leaked by now.

 

Batuu also doesn't look like anything we've seen from IX yet, though if they really CGI the heck out of another location maybe. It looks like a world with a lot of water on that image I posted before and...


Batuu
Climate: Temperate
Terrain: Forests, Mountains


A Crash of Fate

 

If Batuu is not in IX, then I can almost assure Batuu WILL be in future SW film(s). Too cool and too much of an opportunity not to include it.

Maybe it will just be a place they settle at the end of the film. I can't imagine everyone living peacefully on Tatooine for the rest of their lives.

 

I'm sure Batuu will show up in films or TV at some point, maybe even in TLJ, but is it an important planet other than the obvious reasons we've already been given? Maybe?

Obvious reasons:

The Resistance/Rebellion has a history of hiding in old ruins. Because they don't have to do a lot of building. It's a quick move in, move out deal.

And there's probably some lightsaber crystal supply since park attendees will be able to have lightsabers built for their participation in the Resistance.

That last one is something the Resistance and First Order would be looking for: kyber crystals.

BTW, I truly hope JJ isn't handing lightsabers out to anyone in the Resistance. I highly doubt it, but this Batuu attraction raises a slight, slight possibility.

 

i have just skimmed 10 pages and I have no idea what's being discussed in this thread. And at this point i'm too afraid to ask

 

There are different aspects of Battu though @MagnarTheGreat

This map from Galaxy’s edge shows ruins that they claim are perfect spots for the Resistance to hide in.



Then we have Issac’s comments from an interview last year about how the Resistance are closer to guerrilla fighters coming down from the mountains (likely at the start of IX).





What if the below image is part of Savi’s path and the Resistance is in the ruins? Many assumed Cardington sheds meant the Yavin IV ruins but there was no confirmation of that. Perhaps new ruins for Battu were made and filmed inside instead.


With loads of CG over top.
That could fit.

 

They look like refugees. Kind of like a secret civilization that had been hidden from the FO. Could be a cool concept if true.

 

Funfairs or something.

I think...

 

Not at all, Av! Was directed at the previous exchanges, not your post. Sorry about the confusion. You know I would never mess with a fellow Rogue One fanatic.

 

Ignore the white parts in this image that many, including Making Star Wars, were most excited by. Have a look at the more beige arch section. Doesn’t it resemble some of those ancient ruins in the Battu map?

 

Indiana Jones show at Hollywood Studios was based on Raiders of the Lost Arc.

 

That sounds different from the ride at Disneyland. The ride of course takes you through a cursed temple, as we see in the movie, but this is what I'm saying we can expect in terms of "importance." Batuu gives fans the experience of being chased by the First Order -- it doesn't reveal some secret of the movie for us. It's not important in terms of spoiling some major mystery.

In Indiana Jones, we expect to see cursed temples. It's no revelation. Same thing with the First Order being after the Resistance. It's plot-related, sure, but nothing we can't already assume.

I'm guessing that if Batuu is special in any other way, it's full of Kyber crystals. But maybe there will indeed be something more. I don't see evidence for that yet; do you?

 

Yeah, its different. At MGM Studios there was a whole Stunt Spectacular show that they did based on Raiders...it was pretty awesome and we went everytime we went to Disney World. It was very fun.

 

“At the edge of the galaxy so far away, black was the spire that called me to stay, a beacon for drifters forgotten and lost, the spire summoned those broken and tossed, come stay here forever or just pass on through, the spirit of the black spire will forever change you."

• Transcribed from an Aurabesh text on a map of Galaxy’s Edge.

Over the last year couple of years, Batuu and the Unknown Regions have been mentioned countless times in various canon media. And while a lot of theories have been made on the UR and the threat of the Grysk, the strings don’t quite connect.

I think Batuu is that missing link, and an important one at that.

Let me explain: In the Aftermath trilogy we learn that the Emperor senses a disturbance in the force a sort of Source of the Darkside only he could hear (The chosen one Vader was deaf to it and most of the force sensitive members of the church of the dark side thought sheev was going insane from old age ) , coming from somewhere in the UR. It isn’t until Thrawn: Alliances, that we learn where this disturbance, or at least some of it, comes from: Batuu.

So the Emperor sends Vader and Thrawn to the planet during the Galactic Civil War, only for them to be attacked by a species called the “Darshi”.

Who?

As it turns out, the Darshi are a mysterious race from the UR, being used as puppets/slave labor for the Grysk. (This also sets precedence for the Grysk or something from the UR using the FO and the imperial remnants as a puppet state, before their inevitable invasion.)

The Grysk use the Darshi to construct hibernation chambers on Batuu. These hibernation chambers are used for preserving force-sensitive Chiss children, capable of navigating Hyperspace and the treacherous spaces of the UR, facilitating a Grysk invasion. In the Chiss language, these force sensitive people are called “Ozyly-esehembo”. This translates to Sky-Walkers. (Could these be Snoke’s mute/corrupted navigators on his capital ship?)

remember the second unit director of IX 's Mood board had a pic of the Pods from Alien


So, we know that the Grysk tried to establish a base on Batuu, most likely due to its proximity to the UR. But maybe there’s more to it than that. Maybe there’s a reason why the Grysk chose to place force-sensitive Chiss children in hibernation chambers on this exact planet.

Maybe these navigators are corrupted by something on Batuu. And this leads us to the point in question: The Black Spire.

“The Spirit of the Black Spire will forever change you.”

we had darkside spirts attached to items come up a lot in nu canon from the Sith items that the acolytes of beyond wear to lord momin's mask, to the enchtress's spell book, to Darth artius twin sabers, to the items that sana starros is selling. to the Crystal that held a A.I copy of Rur's personality in aphra . To The Presence in the malachor Holocron

So how do we know this giant Onyx colored rock is of any importance? I’ll tell you why:

1. In the early productions stages of Ep. IX, the working title was “Black Diamond”, now “TrIXie”.
   
   
2. The Story Group had this to say about the Spire:

“What if one of these spires was really special? It’s in the middle of the outpost and that’s how Black Spire Outpost got its name. Because it’s blacker than the rest.”

And this

”Most of these skyscraper spires look like granite threaded with rusting iron strata, but one spike in the center of town is glistening black like onyx, and its haunting presence is what made beings both ancient and modern choose to gather here.”

3) Parallels to Snoke’s Dwartii ring with an Onyx rock, from Vader’s Castle. A place we know houses an ancient dark-side shrine and a ancient city below the castle



4) The supposed gift leak from a couple of months ago, with a jar of sand from “a sacred place” and some black bean-like things, connected to something called the Jedi Eater. Black Spire, anyone?

So what makes it special? I don’t know. It could be a giant black Kyber, a manifestation of the dark side, nothing at all, or something else entirely.

With that being said, there are simply too many coincidences and mentions for this to be nothing. I mean, there’s even an upcoming book by Delilah Dawson called Black Spire not to mention the Star Wars Myths and fables book which will have some myths about Batuu it might even have something about the Prime Jedi, the chosen one or the Mortis Gods

Something about Batuu and Black spire may connect to, The Maguiffin of IX ? Snoke ? Grysk ? , the FO ? The Source of the dark side ? Sheev's Return ?or maybe even the Skywalker lineage ? We don't know yet but keep dismissing speculation about the importance if u think its just a theme park and nothing more.

 

You certainly make a strong argument for Batuu's importance. My skepticism is based on what I've seen from LFL and the Story Group since Disney took over: not much.

I see no reason to think they're putting such time and effort into making Batuu some special world. Maybe some authors have tried to do so, but the probability that this will pay off in E9 seem very slim to me.

I hope you are right, and you could be, but the confidence some of you show remind me of the Plagueis people prior to E8.

And we know how that turned out. Theories are fun, but LFL isn't a company creating a deeply interwoven story or world.

Connections are largely coincidence. There's little care or cultivation going on, except when it comes to making money.

 

Well one thing is that Plaguies was dead dead DEAD!

 

Maybe Plagueis is Snoke and hidden in a Batuu crypt?

 

Nah Snoke was always snoke. Even Pablo confirmed that. Palpatine pretty mutch made sure that his master was dead and i don't think we will ever have a sith who switches bodies.

 

I have no dog in this fight at all...but one thing I will say is that SW never goes half as deep as we think it does or want it to. "I am your father" has caused us (with every film since) to look for these really deep connections and mysteries for every person cast and every location revealed. But what even comes close...?

Boba Fett was a clone?
Vader built C3PO?
Leia was Lukes sister? (I am convinced this was just tacked on haha)
Enfys Nest was a woman?
Kylo was Han and Leias son? (That was let out of the bag very quickly)
Senator Palpatine was Darth Sidious? (was this even a mystery)
Darth Maul being alive in Solo? (actually, although I am against this in principle - this was quite a good one)

What else...? Nothing since has made my jaw drop...at all. Rey being Lukes daughter and the backstory of how it came to be (which I admit would have been fantastic) is the only thing that would have given me that "I am your father" level of wow! But it wasn't to be. I love a good theory just as much as the next fan but nothing I have seen from the ST thus far has delivered anything really deep. Each new cast announcement has left me scratching my head when I found out who the actor ended up playing.

Lets see I guess...

 

@Avnar Leia being Luke's twin was tacked on (after ESB actually), nearly all the other examples were revised to fit the movies in retrospect.