ST The New Definitely Not Improved Even More Horrible Than The Last Two Rumors Thread

It probably was anakins story when there were just 6 movies. now its more family driven by the generation.

Personally i think they will want the ST characters to take down Palpatine. justify their own trilogy.

 

Right now the OT doesn't have any justification anymore either for existing because Palpatine is still around and apparently still the power behind everything. So that doesn't appear to be a big concern.

 

I think shortly after we find out that Palpatine was the puppet master behind Snoke we're then going to find out that Darth Plagueis is alive and he's been pulling the strings! But then we're going to learn that Darth Bane is alive and he's the real puppet master pulling the strings of all the other puppet masters.

 

So there would be no justification to win WW1 because WW2 would happen.

There is plenty of justification, the Galaxy was free for several decades from the Empire regime.

 

Yeah, I mean after all it is called Star Wars so...

 

They were apparently as "free" as Palpatine allowed while still calling all the shots. Free like rats in a maze. Yes, every now and then they stumble onto the pleasure button and push it, in this case celebrated their "victory" after Endor. Joke's on them now.

 

Wars among the starts from beginning of time to the end. Skywalker or no it goes on.

 

If another war nullified the ST, count me in. But since this is the final episode of the Saga, that particular victory will stand. I highly doubt Disney will do that to the characters created under its own banner.

 

oh yes cause there wasnt 3 or so wars after the OT in legends No war after the OT Nullifies the OT Galaxy landscapes change Threats reappear or appear. the Cycle continues as it does in real life Does WW2 invalue the heroes of WW1 No Does the Cold war Invaule WW2 no Does any of the other Wars invaulate the Progress that happend in the cold war no

 

There will be more Star wars after the Sequels not named episode 10, wether t's when Rey is old or 100 years after it will happen and it could go either way. The jedi will be rebuild but might not grow large and remian smaller then in PT and a weakened repulbic battling other forces. For all we know she coun't rebuild the jedi until show was as old as Luke and republic took 30 years to recover after Starkiller attack.

 

The wars in Legends were fine because a functioning Republic and Jedi Order was still established. And make no mistakes, these things will happen, they will just be given to the ST characters so they look good. Because, conversely, if they failed at that, they would look bad. Now this goes for the OT folks as well.

Rebuild Jedi of whatever number already makes Rey superior. An existing Republic after a 100 years would be more than superior. Which is the entire point of the ST pretty much, to end with superior accomplishments by the new characters.

 

Unless these bunch of Darths are just one evil entity, that has been "jumping bodies" for a really long time. Hence the rule of two.
Or, Plapy is just plapy. Who knows.

 

I think the best way to handle it would be Kylo gets killed helping trying to take Palpatine out but it allows Rey to finish Palpatine. No ending like in Ep 6 - just let Kylo go out a bad guy wanting more power.

 

More likely Snoke was literally Palps that had took over the corpse of Plagueis that he had threw on ice when needed in case of an untimely death. Plagueis probably regrets letting Palps learn how to cheat death.

 

So basically he is Palpatine, in Plagueis body, but was known as Snoke?
He really is the puppet master!

 

Not necesdarily. Just because Palpatine is back (and we still don't know how or to what extent he's back) it doesn't mean he's been there, controlling everything, since the end of ROTJ. It could well be that he's only recently (or within the last few years) found a way to come back.

 

Every new war nullifies the results of all previous wars. Simple math.

 

they do, but I’m sure they could be genetically engineered to live on the bear Minimum. As for how long they have been out in the unknown regions ward says they are loyal to Palpatine witch would make me think they where around before episode 6

 

Every new war doesn’t make everything worse than it was before the last war, as is the case with the ST. And a NEW conflict with a new enemy should have been created instead of just using the Empire with a new name and a new Darth Vader. The old republic and the old Jedi order lasted for over a thousand generations . The new republic lasted about two dozen years at the most. The new Jedi order lasted about six years. Both were completely destroyed, leaving Luke, Han, and leia with absolutely nothing. All of that is Profoundly unsatisfying, and not very respectful of the OT characters or the OT films.

 

TFA is the reason we are in the situation of this being so similar in the first place. TLJ took it in new directions that make it very different from the OT, yet people get made at TLJ and not TFA LOL.

 

Honestly I think people should be just as mad of TFA ...TLJ just doubled down on what TFA was doing. Blame the root of the "Problem" not the continuation.

(To be fair I'm cool with it but still)

 

Harry Potter is the story of a boy born with a magical gift, raised in obscurity by his aunt and uncle, who under the guidance of a wise old wizard, and with the help of a loyal male friend and a resourceful female one, learns how to harness his ability so as to defeat a dark lord. Is it bad storytelling? Because we’ve certainly seen this story before.

 

If this is your starting point, then the entire premise is flawed. The galaxy at large is definitely not in a worse place than it was with the Empire ruling. The Empire's reach and numbers combined with its tenacious cruelty subjected the galaxy to a hell that absolutely has not been, and can not be, matched by the First Order.