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Mini Series The Obi-Wan "Ben" Kenobi Character Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Todd the Jedi , Feb 23, 2022.

  1. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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    wish ST Luke was more like Kenobi from the show.
    Have massive questioning of faith but still does the right thing and was still on a mission even before rescue Leia thing happened.
     
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  2. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Master star 4

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    Kenobi-Obi-Wan, ANH-Obi-Wan and TLJ-Luke have lots of complentary parallels I think. You have to look a bit hard for sure.

    There are still three episodes left so there may end up being more or less similarity.

    But fundamentally, they both confront their "failing" and their reluctance.
     
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  3. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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    less similarity.
    I'm pretty sure its been said that by end Kenobi's faith is stronger again.

    but that's not comparable to Luke who went to Ach-To to die, who no mission and no interest to do anything. Kenobi watching Luke for 10 years, wants to train the boy and still has force training.

    While Kenobi did not physically use force for 10 years, he did not shut himself from force completly. Avoiding force likely has to do with not wanting to attract any attention.
     
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  4. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Master star 4

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    I think you're probably right on less similarity between the two eventually.

    I guess Kenobi-Obi-Wan works it out for himself, whereas TLJ-Luke needs Yoda to find his mojo again.

    Anyway. Yeah, Luke lacks his mission prior to/during TFA and TLJ.

    Which is probably more similar to ESB-Yoda. I mean, what was Yoda planning to do there?! (I'm joking of course :) )
     
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  5. Skillzwalker

    Skillzwalker Jedi Master star 3

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    Probably been mentioned elsewhere but this series will obviously add weight as to why Leia and Han name their son Ben
     
  6. Lulu Mars

    Lulu Mars Chosen One star 5

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    And possibly some extra weight to the line "Obi-Wan once thought as you do."

    There's already a bit more behind the words "He's more machine now than man. Twisted and evil."
     
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  7. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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    but also makes you wonder why didn't she call him Bail?

    logical out-universe reason is that mass knows Ben Kenobi more than Bail. It sells better if named after known character.
     
  8. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe this series will also explain not just his ability to speak through the Force but why Obi-Wan appears as a chilly Force Ghost on Hoth, for the first time out of nowhere.

    (Of course, I don't really mind if we don't get explanation. Cos it's magical sci-fi storytelling and all that important stuff which is fun and doesn't need explaining. So there, me).
     
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  9. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I think I’d say that the emotional intent is roughly the same, but in very different measurements, and that narratively the two stories are very different. Despair is a major factor in both, but there’s a stubborn righteousness and a much larger compassionate elements to the heartache of Obi-Wan in the show, shaped partially by him having a cause and still being more idealistic than cynical.

    I’m still expecting at least a full voice cameo by Liam Nelson as Qui-Gon to help explain this a little more.
     
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  10. Lulu Mars

    Lulu Mars Chosen One star 5

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    A Force Zoom meeting with Qui-Gon and Yoda.
     
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  11. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 7

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    This series also completely changes the experience of watching TPM, now that we know eopies are flesh-eating monsters. Jar Jar was in much greater danger than we realized.
     
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  12. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Casualty star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    "The fart" is finally justified. Look at that raw, bloody diet.
     
  13. Lulu Mars

    Lulu Mars Chosen One star 5

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    They're doing some weird things with the Star Wars fauna in the Disney+ shows. Apparently, banthas and eopies love meat, despite their distinctly herbivorous characteristics. I'll chalk it up to learned omnivorous behavior - probably caused by humanoids feeding them animal substances (this type of thing happens IRL as well) - but I still think it's weird.
     
  14. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Force Ghost star 6

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    Let's just say Luke's arc in TLJ certainly prepared me for Obi-Wan's portrayal in the series and like with Luke it's sad seeing him being depressed but I know he'll get better over the course of the series. I noticed a lot of parallels not only with Luke in TLJ but also with Rey. Especially in the Tatooine scenes. The way he buried the lightsabers in the sand immediately made me think of the last scene in TROS or the scenes of his lonely daily life.
     
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  15. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    A parallel with Rey is being unable to reach Qui-Gon.

    "Be with me, be with me... they're not with me"
     
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  16. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 5

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  17. Jedi Knight Fett

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    Yep been mentioned a few times as well as the fact that Leia gets more excited when told Ben Kenobi is on the Death Star than her original message to Obi Wan.sure she knows that both Obi Wan and Ben are the same person. But Ben always referenced himself as Ben and so did his Allies. The only people who call Obi Wan his actual name are the villains. Or at least morally dubious characters.
     
  18. ewoksimon

    ewoksimon Force Ghost star 4

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    I enjoyed Ewan leaning into Alec Guinness' body language in Part V, particularly stroking his beard while his arms were folded while listening to Bail's transmission.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 6

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    So how many robot limbs does Obi-wan slice off in their final duel?
     
  20. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 5

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    I think he's going to dismantle Vader. First, the controls on his belt. Then one hand. Then a slash on the control panel hitting the mask on the way up. Finally the other hand. Vader not only needs to be bested, he needs a reason to retreat, otherwise there's no reason he just wouldn't keep going.
     
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  21. Jedi Knight Fett

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    I actually don’t think they’ll fight again
     
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  22. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Force Ghost star 5

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    They do live on a desert world with little plant life. Being omnivorous would be a useful survival technique.

    Course, plenty more irl creatures are omnivorous than people realize. Even cows and sheep have been known to eat meat from time to time. In particular, I remember a video of a cow eating a pigeon right in front of some horrified children at a petting zoo.
     
  23. Lomer2012

    Lomer2012 Jedi Knight star 1

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    You may be right as another duel between them will be difficult to accommodate in the next episode considering all the stuff that must be included in it (a new Tatooine plot orchestrated by Reva, some promised acting by Aunt Beru, the delivery of Leia to Bail, expected force connection with Qui-Gon, etc.). However, without another duel some of the Vader's words during their final confrontation will ring strange (“...I was but the learner. Now, I am the master.”. In their duel in the third episode of the series he was more like an arch master and Obi-Wan - a not-very promising beginner.). Also, defeating Vader in his armor will show Obi-Wan's (re-)growth in the Force, which was the whole purpose of this journey. I would say that the chance of another duel is more than 90%. How exactly this will be arranged is a mystery. One option is that
    Reva will blackmail Obi-Wan with Bail’s recording to face Vader again.
     
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  24. Zer0

    Zer0 Jedi Master star 3

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    It would be odd if they didn't duel again, but I don't want it to feel forced, and they still have to address Revas fate too, I'm not sure if I'd like for her to die at this point.
     
  25. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    The finale needs a big moment, and another fight will be it.