A/V The Old Republic MMO: The New Official Thread

The Eternal Alliance is pretty much a continuation of the Eternal Empire. They use the same tech, the same fleet, the same capital, the same everything. I'd go as far as to say Valkorion succeeded in his plan of having the Outlander take over, just not in the him possessing him and taking over his body part. All they need to do is ditch the Republic/Sith uniforms the soldiers use and adopt the Eternal Empire ones and they're set.

 

Hmmmm... but biology?

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In one version they're stim packing with their helmets on the battlefield, the other it's to survive the atmosphere.

Sorry if I seem up on this; I like the alien biology/culture aspect of SW a lot so things like this are for me like the equivalent of fleet junkies freaking out about a sensor dish's shape changing between stories.

(Especially if it looks like it was snatched from something madeup on a Wookieepedia article and not a legitimate source... hmmm... not the first time that's happened but it's disconcerting every time it occurs...)

 

I find it stupid that NATIVE Umbarians have problems breathing on their planet, where offworlders have no such issues.

So, I have just finished the new flashpoint...

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I liked the visuals. The planet, its fauna and flora felt fresh and unique. The same goes for the natives - Umbarians. However, I am not sure why they were so hostile to the Alliance. I don't remember if there was an explanation for this.

The solo version was (as expected) very easy, but in the end I have enjoyed the flashpoint. The train part reminded me of the one mission from the Jedi Academy, which also involved fightning on the top of the train.

As for Theron, both PC and Lana are surprised, that some significant parts of the shipment (crystals) were left behind by Theron. Maybe he is indeed a triple agent and has done this for purpose.

Some screenshots:

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The Republic and Empire both signed legitimate surrender agreements to the Eternal Empire. Their soldiers who joined the Alliance are already treasonous and in violation of their governments.

We don't tend to think of that because it's "treason" in the sense Charles Du Gaulle was.

However, if the Republic and Empire sneer at those belonging to the Alliance, it's because their word and honor mean garbage anyway. They surrendered, they don't get to complain when the people who didn't no longer acknowledge their authority.

 

New story sucks.

Nathema Zealots+Annihilator for Senya.

 

Could you expand on that?

 

To be honest, Lana is terrible intelligence commander. First Agent Kovach, now the traitor...

 

As a Sorcerer, you have the option to choke

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Theron

even with the forcefield blocking your way, but you don't have the option to kill the traitor. All you can do is watching the traitor run off.

 

she needs a good assistant. What happened to the former shroud assistant?

 

She's distracted from proper Sith paranoia by all these FEELINGS.

and JOY.

It's terrible.



But yes, I'm glad you can't

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kill Theron

 

i think it is because

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Theron is a double agent and he will turn out to be inflitrating the order in order to find out who they are are so the alliance can take them down

So did anyone else notice those Umbarans that didn't have helmets?

 

Someone on reddit deciphered UNUSED (it was changed later) Theron's message. He left at the end of his message (each one) this line: "ERROR: 26912418157". It can be deciphered as:

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Each number represents one letter in the alphabet. 26/9/12/4/18/15/7 leaves us with ZILDROG.

IIRC only assassins didn't have helmets.

 

Oh my.

 

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I am honestly quite intriqued by that. The Old Gods turned out to be superweapons from Iokath, but Zildrog... well, the Giant Serpent supposedly predates them. Still, it can be just a red herring.

About Companions.

Considering, that...

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Vector, Andronikos, Ashara, Corso and Risha

...will probably return via "Alliance Alerts" missions. It leaves us with...

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• BH: Mako
• IA: Temple
• SW: Jaesa
• SI: Khem
• JK: Kira, Doc, Scourge.
• S: Akaavi
• JC: Theran, Nadia, Zenith and Iresso.

Theron is gone, which means that there is not too many characters to choose from to be a central heroes of the upcoming updates or the expansion. There is only T7, Lana and Gault, because the rest of them like Arcann, Aric or Vette can be killed in KotFE/KotET.

So, there will be 12 companions waiting for their return return and 8 of them are from the Republic classes. 5 of them are force users (Jaesa, Kira, Scourge and Nadia) or tied to the Sith (like Khem) .

I think, that Temple would be a good candidate for Copero update (we don't know if there will be any returning companions in this update), since her backstory involved Chiss Ascendancy.

Zenith might still return via alert mission as it was originally planned.

 

I find the story so uncompelling now. I miss pub vs Imp, especially the dark council


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Yep same here.

I also miss the cold war.

It was a new sort of setting for Star Wars (2 great powers of mostly equal power but not at war), the closet thing we had before was some of the x-wing books

 

I feel torn about it. Cold war, the conflict between the Republic and the Sith Empire was great but it was kind of never ending story. The art direction, borrowing heavily from the OT Empire or the Republic from PT, was definitely strengthening this feeling. The feeling, that the story will never resolve. The story recycling itself with different actors.

I am also not sure how good this storyline (Pubs vs Imps) would be without class stories, since IMHO it was its main strength.

There are different folks. Some of them were bored with constant story revolving around the Republic vs the Empire. The others disagree with such sentiment and in their opinion KotFE/KotET does not feel like Star Wars at all.

I liked the change. It has shaken and destroyed the status quo, forcing our Heroes and other characters to face the new reality.

It wasn't perfect. For example:
- It killed too many characters offscreen (we should see Mandalore's (the Vindicated) heroic death instead of just hearing about it, then Shae would take the mantle as the Avenger).
- Expansions lacked exploration.
- There were some unsatisfying companion returns ("Alliance Alerts")...

...and the other things.

Still, with all its flaws it has brought a lot of freshness into the story.

The Eternal Alliance won't last. I doubt it will survive the next expansion (losing the Eternal Fleet is IMHO certain). My first thought about the Alliance thing was, that the story is going into the unification of the Republic and the Sith Empire.

I don't think if it still the case. I would not be surprised to see the opposite. The lack of resources (on the scale of the entire galaxy), constant wars and deaths of the most important leaders - all these things make me think that we will see the collapse of current governments. Planets will separete from the Republic, Sith will fight each other and form petty kingdoms.

 

I think the last two expansions are RIDICULOUSLY like Star Wars since they nicely place a single character in the "save the galaxy" role and move you to Jedi levels.

It's lost a lot of flavor but it's completely Star Wars.

Down to founding the Rebellion and overthrowing the evil Emperor and his Cyborg Minions.

 

For some people (not on this forums) it is not Star Wars if it isn't about Sith vs Jedi.

 

I don't mind the idea of a long story (I honestly felt things needed to take a bit more time, ie resuming the war should have been a big expansion) But I can see people thinking it's more of the same (though again I think FE and ET are more 'star wars' then the cold war)

I mean in a lot of ways the setting was built for the class stories ( different heroes doing different things works well in the cold war)

the new stuff is hit and miss. I like the chapters where they bring characters back in because they are better then the alerts

 

I hear you all but zakuul in particular didn't feel Star Wars to me. I think the mythos plus the resolution of valkorian.

If you read Knight Errant you see where the Cold War was supposed to evolve in old eu. I think moving there would have been interesting with the empire falling apart but small bastions of really strong sith splitting up the galaxy. Could have been interesting to explore for all 8 classes.


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Which is silly since the Sith didn't even exist until Tales of the Jedi. We had Dark Jedi before.

 

I...really didn't like Knight Errant.

At all.

Basically, it showed the Sith at their most non-threatening and pathetic. A bunch of weirdos living in backward dictatorships fighting each other and the Republic unable or unwilling to care. A single Sith Lord should be a threat to the entire galaxy and it was basically North Korea next to the Deathmongers next to a bunch of other insane government experiments. I like JJ Miller but, above all, the Sith should be COMPETENT or they get weeded out. That's how their whole philosophy works.

Also, I don't like the idea the universe should use the model of a later Sith Empire that has nothing to do with the Ziost one as a basis. Darth Ruin founds the New Sith Empire millennium later. I'd rather the two sides make peace and there be a millennium or two of the galaxy a better place than the idea the Sith fall into warlord factions. I mean, what did the LS Sith and IA *DO* all their stuff for if not to fix it?

My preferred fate is the Outlander eventually conquers the Sith Empire and reforms it--until it's no longer the Sith.