Discussion in 'Literature' started by Sinrebirth
, Aug 18, 2015.
Oh my yes
Hello all, I have been away for a while - still inhaling Star Wars content of course, but haven't been using the forumns. Just logged in to say that you have been doing an astounding job of all the reconciliation of the lore, and I am really digging the solutions you're coming up with and think it jives well! Please keep it up, cannot stress that enough! I would offer to help but your knowledge far exceeds mine.
May the Force be With You all, and I'm really looking forward to the next ideas and updates!
I also have to say it cracks me up how every single time something comes out people come in here just to be like "Hah! Betcha can't make that work now! It's untenable!" every time and you make it work every time (with lots of love and retcons of course!) hahaha. Godspeed and don't ever change!
And here I thought BOBF was a tough nut for OneCanon to crack:
@Sinrebirth is up to the task
Well... they can't outdo the greatness of Courtship ever. So I suspect, this either is retconned by OneCanon to be the failed marriage of the Jedi Prince series, lol, or another third one before that even. Would this in OneCanon be set after ROTJ... or after DE then though, eh?
It's going to be madness, I can tell you that.
Maybe some error lead to the marriage being not legal... or recognised officially outside of Endor? After all we know, what happened on Endor, stays on Endor
I mean we have a duplicate fart wedding in Canon, and two weddings for Leia and Han.
Did we actually see Han and Leia exchange vows in Courtship?
This was my immediate thought.
I guess it depends on how the novel is structured, too. If the story’s events can be cleanly parted out, you could put the proposal after Endor, the ceremony after DE, and the honeymoon whenever.
Also, I need to reread COPL’s supporting materials, but if I recall there’s enough evidence that Han and Leia had essentially ended things before/during the X-Wing arc, isn’t there? They could have had an early marriage that fell apart because of the pressures of the war and the heat of things.
Legends had their GoDV wedding interrupted in a seventh cancelled book, so it happens.
And Canon hasn't taken the time to explain Snap's two weddings.
Well Courtship showed some, the rest though was rather explicit in WEGs expansion of Courtship in Cracken's Threat Dossier and I doubt you can have Cracken's intelligence be wrong on that account!
TIMETRAVEL reset! Or the more mundane boring explanation: one was the spiritual, religious wedding, the other the official legal burocratic one?
Actually, that could work for Han and Leia as well. They had their spiritual religious wedding on Endor as in upcoming canon, then planned to officiate that legally at a later time when the NR was set up, which failed in the Jedi Prince series due to interruption and then worked in COPL finally after some shenangians with the Hapans on Dathomir that threatened their religious marriage to become legal finally!
Just got around to checking out Visions and was wondering if we have a consensus of where The Duel and Ronin novel, Akakiri, The Twins, and The Ninth Jedi would take place.
My personal take from earlier in the thread was that Akakiri and The Twins both fit sometime in the post 30s-40s ABY/post-ST era, while The Ninth Jedi would be set during the New Sith Wars. I haven't actually read Ronin yet so I can't really speak to that era in any detail.
I placed The Duel after the Hundred Year Darkness. I also headcanon that Ronin IS Ajunta Pall.
Akakiri I believe fits well in the NSW.
The Twins really fits best before the Battle of Jakku. Republic and Empire and PT and OT references; no ST.
The Ninth Jedi could be very distant past but it’s placed post-IX so it’s very distant future.
Wait, you headcanon that the Ronin is Ajunta Pall? How does that work?
It is crazy to me that this novel would be, to some people, a bigger detriment to 'One Canon,' than the couple in question having TWO DISCRETE SETS OF KIDS that never interact in the material!
I'm telling you - a 'foggy lens' approach to Legends that lops off everything from 'Thrawn Trilogy,' forward is such a satisfying solution.
I'm curious what your thought process here was, because since these are (obviously) fairly continuity-independent I figured the best strategy was to just go with the relationship to existing aspects of Star Wars. So Tsubaki in "Akakiri" is a NJO member because he flies a B-Wing derivative, and I treat "The Twins" as post ST because it has concepts - like the Force-powered, apparently FTL hypercannon and outcast Imperials growing their own Dark Lords from scratch - that seem like follow-ons from the First Order.
Edit: Also, what places "The Ninth Jedi" post-IX? Like I said at the time, that one immediately 'felt' VERY New Sith Wars to me.
Yes, how does that work? Lot's of open space in those eras, though. Although I was thinking Ronin might fit better in the late Pius Dea era, with the Republic having basically become 'an empire' by that point, even if not literally in name. And the talk of splits among the Jedi during this time - say 12,000 to 11,018 BBY - tracking fairly well with some new splinter order arising, or errant knights, if you will.
And some day we'll get the Sith schism/Hundred Years Darkness filled out, I guess, though may be wildly at odds with prior hints.
The Star Wars.com page placed Twins and Ninth Jedi post-XI, as I recall.
Not sure about the others that aren't obviously OT.
Personally Ronin seemed the most obviously AU - though if I had to place it in a regular timeline: based on the technology, clothing, and species involved, I would make it post-XI, with the bandits being first order remnants and the sith in question being force sensitive members of the sith eternal (based purely on the short itself of course, the novel doesn't work with that)
Specifically, both are said to be post-XI by their creators iirc, but hey, One Canon involves a lot of death of the author in the first place.
the creators of ninth jedi menitoned them meeting up with Rey , Ezra and Ahsoka so yeah post ix
@Sinrebirth For Onecanon I know this is a bit of a fanfic question but are we to assume before Luke's Jedi know abeloth is causing the force psychosis that they ruled out the return of some form of the nameless or is there a bit of time where they think its the return of the Nameless until the first encounter with abeloth (seeing how the effects are similar enough )
Interesting question. I think it depends how much about them Luke's Jedi do know.
Would be fun though if they mistake her for a Nameless at first... or if they mistake a Neti for a Drengir lol!
the neti for drengir would be funny cause of Life Day's final panel hinting their going to have a bit of a outbreak of them during the post ROTJ Era