PT The PT Special Editions?.

Out of all the changes made to any of the films, the reedits of the speeder chase and Dooku's escape after the duel always bother me.

 

To be fair, Lucas made those nine years later. It's not like changing Anakin's hand, which was early on.

It was both.

 

Dooku's escape being re-edited is one of the few Blu-Ray changes I still can't get behind. The original edit just flows much better. Also, I'm glad the teal tint of the Blu-Ray is less noticeable on the 2019 UHD / BD releases. Still, the theatrical / DVD / HDTV colors are the way the film should look.

 

I thought the deleted scenes on the TPM DVD were very good. I thought the deleted scenes on the AOTC DVD were fantastic. So, I was looking forward to the ROTS deleted scenes--but when the DVD was released and I watched the deleted senes, I thought they were really disappointing and dull. GL was absolutely correct in removing them. ROTS works much better with those scenes removed.

 

The grading didn't change.

 

Happy to confirm, it did. There is less teal and more contrast compared to the 2011 BD. Not quite the original grade from 2002, but far less distracting. I recall the 3D release of AOTC also missing the tint, which would be especially noticeable during daytime scenes.

 

If they did a special edition, I'd hope in Revenge of the Sith they fix the sequence of cuts after Mace commands Anakin to have a seat after his complaint about not being a master. As it is right now:

-Anakin apologizes
-Shot of Obi-Wan looking at Anakin shaking his head
-Shot of Anakin sitting and then looking at Obi-Wan
-Shot of Mace looking disappointed

What I think would work better:

-Anakin apologizes
-Mace looking disappointed
-Shot of Anakin sitting and then looking at Obi-Wan
-Shot of Obi-Wan looking at Anakin shaking his head

Don't know why but that always stuck out to me. Very small thing of course.

 

That's a result of that website's HDR to SDR conversion, which isn't always accurate. If you pick the proper SDR version, which is the 2020 Blu-ray, you'll see that there was no change at all in the color grading.

 

I would love for this deleted scene of Obi-Wan & Padme to finally see the light of day.

 

i LOVE the line "you made him happy, when nothing else ever truly could".
this is something i always liked about GL work. anakin skywalker was never happy in his entire life. the only time he was happy is when he was with padme.
there are many reasons why he turned, but qui-gon death isnt the major reason. nor palpatine or the jedi. its the fact that he was about to lose the only thing that gave him happiness. the truth is anakin was always an unhappy person, padme was the cure.


im guessing if he wouldnt have met her, he would probably kill himself at some point.

 

That's too dark. He was happy in his life. The problem was he was much happier with Padme, which stemmed from an attachment to her. Obi-Wan just underestimated the depths of their feelings for each other.

 

maybe thats too dark, but thats what i saw throughout the prequels, behind the smile of him playing with his friends or getting the adrenaline rush of jumping from cars, the only real smiles and happy moments i remember are with padme.

 

That's passion or pleasure, not happiness. Anakin was happy as a Jedi and grateful to be one.

 

This is not correct. For the OT in the late nineties the adjusted scenes were physically added into the original negative replacing the scenes, that Lucas wanted to update. The updates were rendered at 2K after which print outs was created, which ended up in the new 1997 negatives for all three films. So, only the scenes that were adjusted are at 2K resolution. Any scene in the negative that was not altered (the vast majority of the OT) was physically restored (as opposed to digitally) and thus has 4K to 6K resolution depending on the film stock used. The latest 4K releases of the OT use a 4K scan of the 1997 updated negatives, so for the OT the films are mostly presented in true 4K resolution.

 

They didn't just add changes in the 1997 SEs. They did a full restoration of the movies, they scanned and digitally recomposited the elements all over again. The movies were entirely adjusted in that regard, and that digital intermediate was finished at 2K. From that, new negatives were made. And those negatives got a 4K remaster back in 2012.

 

Yes, they recomposited the effects shots, which were in a lower resolution anyway, because optical compositing results in image degradation. However, there was no digital intermediate for the whole film, and no new negative. The OT had far fewer effects shots than the PT, and only the relatively limited number of effects shots were digitally manipulated.

John Knoll : “It’s about 1,700. The original A New Hope was about 360. Empire Strikes Back was about 700. Return of the Jedi was about 900 or 950. Episode I was 1,900-something, 1950, I think. Episode II was 2,200. Episode III was 2,400.

That leaves between 1,500 and 2,100 shots per film, that have no visual effects and are thus to this day not affected by any digital manipulation.

The films were first physically restored. Subsequently, the effect shots were scanned from the original elements and either digitally recomposited or completely redone. These shots, which account for 15%-35% of the films, were then transferred to film and inserted in the original negative. This leaves between 65%-85% of shots that were only physically restored and thus still have 4K+ resolution. The original effect shots that were cut from the negative were stored in the LFM archives.

Btw, the first film with a digital intermediate was "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" in 1999.

 

anakin and padme were in love. in a way, its passion, pleasure and happiness. and with a baby on the way its even more powerful.

anakin was grateful to be a jedi, but was he a happy jedi ? not at all. just watch AOTC and ROTS. its very clear he isnt happy as a jedi.
a person who is "wants more" is not a happy person. happy wealthy people dont "want more", they are enjoying getting more. its what they do (in their eyes). there is a difference.

the jedi code forbid him from having someone in his life, how can you call that happiness ?

 

“Anakin was happy as a Jedi”

one bad day later

“from my point of view the Jedi are evil”

 

When I say that 65%-85% of shots have not been digitally manipulated, I mean before being scanned in 4K by Reliance Mediaworks from the negative. Obviously, the entire films were digitally remastered in 2012-2014 at 4K resolution from these scans resulting in 4K digital intermediates, that were used for the 2019 releases.

 

Anakin wanting more centers around being more powerful, not about personal happiness. He is frustrated in AOTC because he believes that he should be a Knight by now. In TCW, he is happy because he advanced to Knighthood, is training Ahsoka and is married. He starts to have issues because of what happened to Ahsoka and Rush Clovis coming back into Padme's life. Then in ROTS, he's upset because he feels that the Council doesn't respect him, nor trust Palpatine.

 

you yourself just named 4 reasons (out of many you did not mention) of the definition of unhappiness.
a person who wants more is a person who is unhappy with the things he has. with what he had, he couldnt find happiness, he searched for "more" to end his unhappiness.
frustration is a form of unhappiness. he believed that life is unfair. that he doesnt get what he deserved. he is angry.
i didnt watch TCW except for some important episodes so i dont know much about the ahsoka thing. but issues create unhappiness.
you dont feel happy when you are upset. BUT upset is a momentary reaction, it happens because of the result you are unhappy with.

anakin is not a happy person. depression is almost impossible to see, but he gave me a vibe of a guy who is on the edge, and apparently, he was.

 

That's not about happiness. Those are signs of greed. Of wanting things that you feel entitled to have. He had everything that he wanted, but he wanted more.

"They didn't seem to understand the fact that Anakin is simply greedy."

--George Lucas, The Making of ROTS, page 188.

"The scene in the garage here, we begin to see that what he's really upset about is the fact that he's not powerful enough. That if he had more power, he could've kept his mother. He could've saved her and she could've been in his life. That relationship could've stayed there if he'd have been just powerful enough. He's greedy in that he wants to keep his mother around, he's greedy in that he wants to become more powerful in order to control things in order to keep the things around that he wants. There's a lot of connections here with the beginning of him sliding into the dark side."

--George Lucas, AOTC DVD Commentary.

 

One could argue that someone who’s greed is unsatisfied is unhappy

having everything you want and still being dissatisfied is an example of his unhappiness

 

That's not the same as depression.

 

I've been campaing and hoping for this scene to be released since 2005! They showed stills of it in the hyperspace section during the Ep III production and when it wasnt in the movie but featured in the novel I craved to see it!



I here is me hoping to get this scene some day...though I'd surely would then want it in the film.

BTW: add the delegation scenes. TCW, Rebels, Rogue One, now Kenobi and Andor...featuring all Bail and Mon! So much meaning!