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Yeah, I mean't TX.

And I am not talking about presidential elections, I am talking about the congressional elections. There is a reason the party for the most part doesn't want to end the program. It really hurts Republicans in districts in the southwest. Honestly, the ads that could come from this move are going to be brutal.

 

We are in agreement then. That so many of the undocumented workers would meet legal migration criteria elsewhere speaks to the failings of the US immigration regime. There will be some who wouldn't qualify, but on the whole they would be few. This enables undocumented workers to attain the rights of a citizen, such as to irresponsibly own a gun, pay too little tax but be told you pay too much, and be caught by a welfare safety net made of the same intangible, imaginary bull**** as prayers and wishing-well wishes.

 

i don't know how many ads Hillary ran in Pennsylvania, Mich, or WI, but she ran ads like crazy here in arizona. it didn't really improve her number, but it drove Trump's down.

 

I read somewhere that cleanup and reconstruction works for Houston could cost up to 180 billion dollars. I think Trump could use that as a perfect excuse for explaining to his idiot followers why the wall couldn't be built, because they sure as hell won't ask about the Mexican money. They already forgot about it.

 

Thank you for creating it, friend! Environmentalism is so important!

For my part, I appreciate every individual on this thread who has opposed Trump. He supports economic ruin, neo-imperialism, racism, sexism, biphobia, and transphobia. I never knew he would outdo GWB and RWR so swiftly. But we all know the nuclear codes were not safe from this guy as early as 2015. We all knew he was unstable.

 

And not just in national elections, either.

 

Hillary, like Romney and McCain, could miscalculate moods in the country. They all miscalculated when they should present themselves certain ways. Case in point: McCain was a maverick in 2000 when many wanted a standard, boring political. Then he was a standard, average politician in 2008 when most of the country wanted something new. Not good instincts.

Many have compared Hillary to Romney in terms of general election campaign style. Well, I won't beat that horse further. I don't believe in animal abuse, or information abuse in this case.

We all know that, despite her flaws, Hillary would have been preferable to old Trump. I say that as one who voted for Kerry in 2004 and Obama in 2008. Sometimes incremental change and a dose of social liberalism, despite the mixed bags in the economic and foreign policy areas, are better than extremists like Trump and Bush.

I hope the liberal momentum keeps up somehow. We had a great women's march and other marches against Trump's policies. It has been alleged by some to the left of Bernie Sanders that Trump is an incompetent fascist and Pence would be an competent fascist. That's an extreme word to throw around: fascist. But let's refer to them as being one thing: rightist extremists. I think that Pence, Ryan, and McConnell could do much damage, but they are also quite clumsy and stupid in other areas. I'm generalizing, I know. I'll let other people feel in the blanks and details. Perhaps, I'm being optimistic.

The key to starting this is getting money out of politics. Yes, I favor Justice Democrats. I favor the Bernie Sanders-types and Tulsi Gabbards. But I'll take moderates like Hillary Clinton, Corey Booker, and the like. They are not extremists like Trump, despite their flaws. But you know me. I'm typically influenced by Chris Hedges and his books. That's how I roll, y'all.

At any rate, let me be concise: America will be great when there is no financial inequity, racism, sexism, biphobia, transphobia, or whatever prejudice I left out besides ageism and ableism. I do appreciate how Obama's Justice Department defended this woman. Despite the fact that she had no surgery or no legal gender change, she was a woman, and the Obama Justice Department defended her in federal court. I wish Obama got credit for how he steered Americans into accepting good, moral values like that. Obama firmly denounced rape several times, and it's no surprise that many cisgender and transgender women appreciated his presidency. Obviously, he had three good women around him! But he was also smart. His social policy was beautiful, even if it was incremental at times. That's why I'm proud that I voted for him in 2008 fo sho. I am appalled by how Trump allowed people to mistreat trans kids in schools. That's somethin' called child abuse, ya know. That's why Obama was against it. It may be verbal, but abuse is abuse. Hurting trans kids verbally or physically inside of bathrooms is appalling. it is child abuse to do that to any child or adolescent. Period. Many ya know what? Many cisgender kids and Millennials get that. We got good intuition, as it were.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.go...ama-administrations-record-and-lgbt-community



As for the story about the trans lady, she was murdered by this guy in Alabama or Mississippi. I think that damn Trump took down the Justice Department article from 2016. I prefer that because it called her a woman and used her preferred name. Like I said, no surgery or legal gender change was necessary for her or any of us, unless we choose it. We're all women, according to neurologist Dick Frans Swaab, who examined both cisgender and transgender female brains. Our brains are practically the same. There ain't no soul. It's the brain that makes us female, as Dr. Swaab would put it. This lady was murdered by this man in the South simply because he was embarrassed to his family and friends that he was in a straight relationship with this woman. So damn him to hell. Good thing the Obama administration pursued federal hate crime charges against him that worked! 49 years in the slammer!

So many black trans women are murdered every year. It breaks my heart. The racism and the sexism vexes me. The fact that about one third of cisgender women are raped every year is appalling. Trump inspires this manure to continue. The way he treated teenage and adult women was unacceptable. He was like the boy who got expelled from my 80-person high school in 2002 for being a lame rich [profanity omitted]. He is like men who are fired but not charged in churches and schools. Trump is a threat to children and women, cis and trans. He is a threat to American values of equality, if America actually stands for equality. That's why I wasn't surprised about his love for neo-Nazis. I figured based on what he said in November 2015 that he liked old Hitler and his stupid gang. Trump is a dumb ox who doesn't know how America tried to evolve after the 1950s. He slept through it. Or he rolled his eyes at it. I don't want to give any credit to his so-called intellectual prowess. I appreciated Obama's intellectual prowess when he would defend women and ethnic minorities.

 

Meanwhile, the "Atlantic Council" wants US warships to confront the Russian Navy at Crimea: How Trump Can Get Putin's Attention

Think Trump will go for that?

 

Weren't they diverting funds from federal disaster relief to wall construction?

Don't worry, there are options out there that the government can not take when it comes to funding the reconstruction.

"I didn't done have made Texas have done floodin', I ain't gonna have done paid for no re-con-struction!"

 

Can someone explain this whole DACA strategy to me? I honestly don't understand how it makes sense from Trump's standpoint. Anyone who supported the policy will--correctly--see it as a mean-spirited, incoherent policy concession to his racist base, and give him no credit. The same racist base, on the other hand, can see just as well as all of us that the delayed implementation is meant to allow Congress to bypass him and implement the policy. So at that point, is his message supposed to be that he really wanted to throw them out but Congress is stronger than him? Or that he was too stupid to realize there was an obvious way not to end up in this situation (immediate implementation)? Or that he actually does support the policy but he just wanted to create as much chaos as possible while keeping the status quo?

. . .???

 

there's no strategy, he has no political core.

 

In this instance, it's simply that he is, and always has been a massive racist.

 

SateleNovelist11

McCain's problem in 2008 was he ran on the GOP ticket who was in the WH at a time when things are going so bad. Nothing less, nothing more. Had things been going better, John could have easily won. Heck Obama said until the economic crisis in October, he honestly felt John was going to win.

As for the rest, we will have to agree on disagreeing since I dealt and seen to many "extremists" on both sides over the years and they are all the same...all talk that is completely devoid of reality LOL!

Jabba-wocky

Kicking the can to Congress and praying they cannot get their act together. He particularly is guessing on the Democrats not wanting to cut any middle of the road deal and simply want to use this as a campaign issue come the midterms.

It's really awful to think Trump is playing politics with a bunch of kids but that is where we are at. I actually do think DACA should end ONCE legislation can be passed that will give a more long term solution because Obama himself said his executive order was simply a short term fix for a long term problem. So ending DACA as an order is fine in my book but only after a law has been passed and signed that will address this issue for good.

 

Well, to all the Nazi's out there, it is wrong to use physical violence and hurt people who are legally protesting. I know that a lot of you like to fall back to the thought that these weren't legal protests or that there was no violence until the Nazi's ran into a crowd.

The truth is Antifa has been hurting and hospitalizing people for over a year who haven't been Nazis. Just regular innocent people.

If you can justify using violence on actual Nazis who are legally protesting, fine. You are wrong, but fine. But what about all the people, like in Boston and Berkeley, who weren't Nazis or white supremacists? Why was it OK to attack these people?

Understand as you answer that if you support punishing people without a trial, you are going to punish innocent people. So either what Antifa is doing is OK or it isn't.

I'm saying it isn't.

And look at this: http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/01/public-school-teachers-behind-violent-antifa-group/

How is this OK!?

 

J-Rod: Let it go. You're the only one still discussing antifa. They're a minor distraction from a much larger problem, and far less dangerous than their right-wing counterparts.

That's the truth. Period. Not opinion, not based on "a certain point of view", but fact.

We've all moved on here--it's time for you to do so now as well. No one else is discussing this but you.

 

I'm glad the FBI agrees that Antifa are "terrorists" while the Klan and Neo-Nazis and the alt-right are "peaceful white supremacists."

 

J-Rod

I meet some good members of Anifta and some bad ones. I meet some good members of BLM and some bad ones. How many good Nazis have you meant?

heels1785

Donald is simply betting on the dysfunction of Congress with Ryan being cannot get a deal together with Pelosi in the next six months. Regrettably it's a pretty good bet. *sigh*

 

Meanwhile, hurricane Irma is about to nuke us (I live in Puerto Rico). Since FEMA is defunded and Houston took a huge hit from Harvey, I wonder if there'll be anything left for us. I mean listen, I know we here are second-class citizens, but I just hope Papa Trump will do something for us, purely for ratings of course.

 

We "fell back" on the point that they were Nazis that launched a terrorist attack. That means they should be denounced more forcefully than Antifa, jay walkers, bank robbers, or literally any other sort of criminal that isn't murdering people and/or advocating the murder of people.

 

I respect your freedom of speech J-Rod. For my part, I encourage you and anyone else to please continue to post on whatever topics you wish.

 

This is a Star Wars internet message board that doesn't allow you to talk about Star Wars. There is no freedom of speech here.

 

To be fair, Trump may not know that Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory.