Discussion The Utterly Awful Completely Contemptible Please God Make The Suffering Stop Rumors Thread

I see a few reasons why ST era did not reach the popularity in expanded content that the PT had…..

1. Making Rey the Last Jedi, this was a mistake. Fans were used to seeing more then one Jedi on screen together after the PT era. That doesn’t mean the ST should have copied the PT, but having at least a few Jedi alive would have been nice.

2. Killing off Luke Skywalker, right after he returned to being a true Jedi. Carrie Fisher passing away before TLJ was released should have also influenced them to change Luke’s ending. Let him train Rey, if he needs to die in the ST, do it in TRoS.

3. The ST era is to short. The PT benefits with the 3 year gap between AoTC and RoTS. The gaps between the OT films has also been good, allowing more stories in comic/book form. The only gap for the ST is just 1 year between TLJ and TRoS. Sure one could cram in a few season animated show, but Rey should be given more time to trained and the Resistance grow, Kylo in control of the FO, etc…..another 3 year gap would have been nice.

 

It has nothing to do with liking or disliking the ST. The ST characters didn't take a hold on the market. Why would a business try to force it instead of doing it over - especially after they've admitted it was a mistake?

Disney could do a lot of things. Infinite possibilities - some have been rumored over the years yet nothing has made it. How these things tend to play out is predictable - which is where this is headed.

 

Why would they redo an entire trilogy when they can just make new content furthering the timeline? Many main PT characters (Dooku, Anakin, Padme) weren’t exactly loved by general audiences in the years after the releases. They are now because there is more content around them.

Also ST characters wouldn’t even need to be beloved if the future stories were focused upon new characters and the older characters had cameos (I’m doubtful the general audience wouldn’t still be excited to see Rey or Finn to be honest, but whatever, I’m working with the premise you have). If those new characters are beloved what’s the big deal? Disney have what you are saying they need without the whole go around.

I’m not sure how you can’t see your motivated reasoning here. You don’t like the ST and you really want it redone. You are correct that they need new and engaging stories moving the story forward, but you’ve convinced yourself that the only way to do that is to redo the ST, so you’re certain that it’s going to happen because it’s the only sound business decision. The reality is that it simply isn’t. They’ll just make new stories moving forward and fix elements of the ST with non-theatrical content. That’s the sound business decision.

 

Thing is, not all Star Wars material will hold the market. what are they gonna do? Ignore the ones that don't work? Kinda hard to take Lucasfilm seriously if they did that. This is certainly not one of those franchises that you can do that with.

 

We'll find out soon enough. Iger addressing Star Wars is inevitable.

 

Come on man. You can’t be dismissive of everyone who disagrees, and when people want to have a discussion about it just say “we’ll see.” You’re very convinced they will remake the ST, I’m not sure why your argument isn’t more bulletproof than this.

 

Come on. Don’t you remember his theories about the ST back in the day? The internet is full of people like this. They want to believe something and start twisting facts until they bend reality to their liking.

 

I minimize my time going back and forth on the internet when my points stand for themselves - especially when too many get sensitive in their feelings.

Case in point.

 

Your points don’t stand for themselves though, and if they did you should be able to easily dismantle anything put to you. I’ve also made it clear that I don’t really care if the ST gets remade. I’m fine if they want to work with it, but if they don’t, that’s fine as well. But your argument that it’s “the only thing to do” just doesn’t really hold that much water since it’s not the only business sound business decision which could be made to made.

It sounds like you just don’t really want to hear that it’s by no means the most likely outcome. Maybe it’s time to accept the ST and move on?

 

They are not going to remake the ST, even though the ST failed in various ways. Though there have been some retcons in current canon, the powers that be still want the appearance of one unified canon. Various other Star Wars works still reference the ST too.

They are going to keep doing what they are doing now….focusing on non-ST Star Wars.

I’m 100% certain the next film is not going to be about the ST cast.

Besides by continuing to focus on pre-ST content, there are more storytelling possibilities. For those who want to see more of the Big 3, New Republic era for that. Plenty of options too for Non-Skywalker tales.

 

No offence, but coming from a poster that wants to reboot the ST with a new trilogy that uses de- aging / deep fake versions of Luke, Han and Leia at the front - you have got to ask questions if your ideas are even suitable for an audience. Both in terms of a storytelling narrative and pure rational quality filmmaking - that is a concept i find tacky and not progressive. Not to say that it would probably also provide to be a bad business idea that would harm the franchise or cheapen its core of being innovative.I am a cinephile, filmnerd, and a Star Wars fan. This sounds awful on all accounts.

 

In the case of Indiana Jones, we know that LFL has already asked this question, and answered it in the affirmative.

Is the situation different with Star Wars? Yes. But, they are increasingly confident in the technology, that hurdle is getting resolved more and more, at least they believe it is. We already have deepfaked/de-aged Luke and Leia, that bell can’t be un-rung.

 

Pretty sure @Othini was referring to a whole trilogy of de-aged main characters.

 

No need for me to dismantle everything when time reveals all.

Folks in their feelings I don't take their theories seriously or accept the ST should wonder more why Disney isn't accepting the ST or following any of those theories.

Those "corrections" don't hold up or the actions of the company would be different. If others want to believe it they can - not worth my time convincing.

This. Pandora's Box has already been opened.

 

You’ve got to be trolling. You can’t be staying these things without a smirk across your face because people here are foolish enough to take you seriously.

Your whole schtick is acting like the guy who is sober and accurately assessing every situation. At a certain point you have to live up to the schtick or another reputation will begin to precede you, especially since you’ve doubled down by refusing to even engage anyone on your predictions, which is kind of the point of a forum.

 

Please, don’t let people go home without a taste of your previous insight, don’t be so humble!

https://boards.theforce.net/threads...on-page-2447.50046730/page-2182#post-54490705

Just a random search

 

Movie in pre-production now.

 

The article forgot to mention Shawn Levy’s movie (when listing all the different films in development).

 

Yeah. The ST lost a lot of epic cred by feeling like it all happened on a Saturday afternoon.

 

Biggest mistake for me is barely any time skips. But you can tell great stories still right before TFA and right after TROS.