ST Theory: Kylo and Rey are siblings, and Kylo spared her as a little girl.

Han is not stupid; if he had even the slightest suspicion that Rey was his daughter, it would've colored and impacted his interactions with her, and the subject would have been addressed directly the second he and Leia reuinted.

The very fact that Han treats Rey like a stranger and doesn't even broach the subject of him and Leia having had a daughter is unequivocal proof that Rey isn't a Solo, and the people who continue to believe otherwise are just holding on to a fantasy.

 

I would look at it more from the logistics of each film. It feels like with Han and Leia both in the film, if they had lost a daughter they damn well should have mentioned it in TFA and I think that Rey Solo (which actually having seen the film I think could have worked very well) should have been revealed in TFA - it would have made it feel more stand-alone and also should have been in play during the final duel between brother and sister. The cousin angle you can leave till 8 because we don't want to end the film on exposition, and you can deal with the truth about Luke being her father and what Ben did early on in 8.

I actually think at one point she may have been a Solo - all the stuff with Han in the Falcon is screaming Rey Solo. I think it still works but I think they switched it to Rey Skywalker for whatever reason and once they did that, they stripped out half the backstory stuff because they knew they could save it for the next episode.

 

I think it's possiblle that Ben knew someone escaped the destruction of Luke's academy and that Rey could possibly be the girl who escaped. I don't think that makes them siblings. Plus, I just cannot fathom Han/Leia not saying anything or figuring out that Rey is their daughter they intentionally left on Jakku. Maz would have said something too when she talked with Rey in the basement of her watering hole.

Rey is a Skywalker, in my view. I am really curious about her mother and whether she comes from Naboo or any other planet we've seen.

 

If we are looking to the image on the right its actually Kira & Sam (Rey & Finn) as you can see Finn changes a hell of a lot through concept drawings, Rey on the other hand is always white with black hair. And people said it was an open audition - I don't think that anymore after reading this book.

 

I agree that if Han guessed Rey to be his daughter he would have treated her differently. But if he thought she was dead, it would not occur to him to indulge in fantasies that this girl was his daughter. He's not that kind of fanciful romantic. I might be, perhaps, but until the film-makers state it explicitly one way or another, IMO, an argument can be made for either case, H/L's daughter or Luke's.

 

It would make sense for Kylo to fail at being Hardcore Darkside by not killing a little girl. A moment of weakness that has bothered him since. And now the girl is back to haunt him.

She could be Han's or Luke's or just a girl. I'd be fine if she was Just a Girl.

 

Regarding Lor San Tekka, he is close enough to Leia, as I noted, to be considered an "old ally", recognize and consider her to be royalty even in the face of her being a military leader, amd to recognize Kylo Ren as Ben. If he had ever crossed paths with Rey (which seems more likely than not given that he's well-connected enough to have ended up with part of a holographic map leading to Leia's brother Luke), he would've passed on the information immediately and Rey's exile on Jakku wouldve ended as fast as Leia could get someone to the planet.

 

Kylo did say during the interrogation scene, "I can take anything I want" Maybe he took Rey's memory.

Another thought - Luke's lightsaber was obviously at the temple during the time that was shown in the vision, so maybe Rey has what Quinlan Vos had, to be able to gain an impression an image from touching something.

 

We all seem to forget that Jakku is an entire planet. We have no idea how far Nimma Outpost is from Lor San Tekka's village. Why isn't it possible they never crossed paths?? It's like saying, "Oh, you're from America? You live in NY? Oh, I've got a cousin out in California. Maybe you've met her!"

 

She's got to be a Skywalker. I sincerely doubt that Han and Leia would've acted the way they did after Rey got involved. Besides, I think the telling scene is at Maz's bar. Maz asks who "the girl" is, as Han is about to answer, the camera cuts away, and shortly thereafter, Rey finds the Skywalker lightsaber. I happen to think, like a lot of people here, apparently, that Kylo dropped Rey off on Jakku after the temple attack.

Furthermore, I'm going to float the idea that a masked Kylo made the attack on the Jedi, but "found" Rey as Ben Solo--unmasked. As this happened 14-15 years ago, when Rey was a little girl, she could have forgotten what Kylo's face looked like. Kylo could look different too after that many years. I'm betting that Kylo offed Mrs. Skywalker at the temple, a la Jacen Solo and Mara Jade. Seems the writers of the trilogy have already based Kylo off of Jacen Solo. Granted, that leaves Rey as a Jaina Solo possibility, but I just don't see that. Not right now, at least.

 

Unless they're an ignoramus, no parent is going to fail to be suspicious if presented with clues that suggest that a total stranger may be the child they thought was dead.

 

I think there are several clues mapped out in the film (and a couple in the novel).

The first is Kylo's "what girl?" reaction.

This implies he knows her.

The fact he doesn't mention this to Snoke is telling.

In the novel, when she summons the blade, Kylo says "It IS you!". So his suspicions are confirmed beyond doubt.

Earlier at Maz's castle, Maz is fairly ambivalent towards Rey, until she answers the call of the saber and crucially Maz says that the saber was Luke's, then his father before him and now it calls to Rey. The clues here are fairly obvious to me but they keep the mystery going with precise yet ambiguous language. Maz says that whoever Rey is waiting for (we know it's her family - not parents, again, the word is precise and telling I think) is not returning, but someone else might - Luke.

Now given we see Rey being Left with Unkar, I think we can rule out any loving member of Rey;s family leaving her there and not ever coming back.

But I can see Ben failing his test at the massacre (I think we see him saving her from a KoR in the vision) and in a moment of weakness, burying Rey's memories before dropping her with Unkar and never going back. Jakku is a jumping off spot to the Unkown regions so perhaps this was on his way back to Snoke out there in the Beyond somewhere. It may even be that the KoR were sent to wipe out the Jedi before Snoke and the First Order fully emerged from the Beyond. Devastated at the loss of his daughter, claiming himself for Kylo's turn and perhaps feeling the lure of the dark side and also perhaps following the guidance of the Force, Luke seeks out the Temple and goes into exile.

Then maybe the First Order emerge and start their rise (which only really kicks off in this film I think - without wishing to be crude, this feels like Hitler finally making his move - up until the Republic is wiped out, I'm sure various appeasers believed they could be contained).

And all the while, Rey is forgotten on Jakku and Kylo kept the secret of his weakness to himself and possibly Vader.

"What girl?" is almost the equivalent of "The Force is strong with this one".

Kylo and Snoke talking about the Girl is the equivalent of "the son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi". What they've held back is the exact reveal, and I think that's because the one they wanted to focus one for this film was Ben Solo and Kylo murdering Han to pass his dark side test.

 

In a whole GALAXY of untold trillions of people, you meet one cool girl and just automatically think, "This could be my dead daughter now come back to life"?? Really?

 

When one of the first order's officers mention "a girl" (with lots of emphasis) seen with BB-8, this causes Kylo Ren to become extremely angry and force choke the officer. Might be something in that?

 

If Rey is a Solo, I can see Han OR Leia not saying anything about it but I can't see both of them not saying anything.

Agreed. While I'm a big fan of Luke wandering off into self-imposed exile, I can understand it and I can understand him putting Rey someplace he thought would be safe for her. Either that or he had a massively powerful Force vision telling him it was important for Rey to be on Jakku at some point in the future.

 

More than likely. Snoke ordered Kylo to wipe out the academy jedi while he distracted Luke (that's when he gets his injuries) and Kylo spares Rey because they are family. Snoke is unaware of this or maybe finds out later hence why he makes kylo prove himself by killing Han

 

You're Han Solo, and you've just met a total stranger who has facial features similar to your estranged (possibly ex) wife, who can intuitively operate your most prized possession, and who can converse with your best friend. If you're actually still fully cognizant, there's no way that you don't connect these things with the daughter you'd lost.

 

Something was brought to my attention whilst discussing the movie with some friends last week...
I know Adam driver is in his 30's but I thought he looked an hell of a lot younger in the movie, and one person I was chatting to believes kylo and Rey are TWINS!

Can't be possible...can it?

 

Rey Skywalker?

Or,


Perhaps Luke was shocked, thinking she was killed by Kylo.

 

Kylo is between 10 and 11 years older than Rey, so No, they're not twins.

They're not even siblings.

 

Seriously, Luke having a kid or Ben having a sister is something that would have been mentioned. If Rey is anyone of note's daughter it would either be Max Von Sydow's character or she's the daughter of one of Luke's slaughtered students. She's not a legacy character, anymore than Finn is.

 

Kylo is 29 and Rey is 19.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kylo_Ren

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rey

Though I agree it now seems more likely Rey is Luke's daughter, I still think it's possible she's Han and Leia's.

 

You'd have to first undo the belief that your daughter is dead.

 

At this point it does make a ton of sense that Kylo spared her at the temple and left her on Jakku with Platt. The only debate is whether you think Kylo/Rey are cousins or brother and sister.

To me, why would Kylo spare his cousin when she could become an obvious threat to him down the line? Plus it would negate the plot of TFA. Kylo is determined to hunt down the last Skywalker and kill him. If he knew Rey was a Skywalker why would he spare her?

Dramatically, it just makes so much more sense for them to be brother and sister and for that to be the "big reveal."

 

I do think that Kylo brought her to Jakku as a last sign of Ben Solo. He probably killed Rey's mother and Luke's wife during the massacre, but could not kill little Rey. He brought her to Jakku, where she has to live a poor life. He was maybe still jealous of her, because of better teachings of Luke as his daughter. But in bringing her away, he could still hurt Luke. He wiped her mind, so Luke could not feel her and thought she is dead.