TO LFL - Stop abusing Han and Leia's Romance!

Yeah it was in the Chewbecca comic. It was totally sickening. Leia was going on about how she and Han were never her and Han, it was always the Princess and the General, and how Han was never comfortable in this society. Then she went on to say that she was losing Han and her children, and she was going to be all alone, just like after Alderaan...Then she said Han was never himself with her, he was only himself around Chewie and the kids...ARGGGG! They obviously have a dysfunctional marriage if Han is closer to his best friend than his wife. I don't buy it at all. You know, read the Magic of Myth. It says Han and Leia have true love and are soulmates. But apparently the EU thinks not.

 

Awwww, read this...how sad. If only the EU authors read this before writing...At least *we* know that Han and Leia have true love and are soulmates rather than just two people who live together like the authors think....

THE MYSTICAL MARRIAGE

With this rebirth, and the opening of their hearts to love, the real romance between Leia and Han is only just beginning [mid ESB], but this is a good time to look at the place that love holds in the hero's journey. After the
obstacles haave been surmounted and the monsters slain, the hero's and heroine's ultimate adventure is the mystical marriage.

Twelfth century troubadors, telling stories of the likes of Tristan and Iseult, transformed the Western concept of romantic love, exalting the love between two people to the level of a sacrament. In myths and fairy tales dating from the medieval period and before, the life-enhancing treasure and vital forces held hostage by the dragon are symbolized by Woman, the complement to the male hero. Mystically, she represents the sum total of all that can be known, and since this is a journey of discovery, it is thus the
hero's job to come to know her. Joseph Campbell puts it this way:

"As [the hero] progresses in the slow initiation which is life, the form of the goddess undergoes for him a series of transfigurations: she can never be greater than himself, though she can always promise more than he is yet capable of comprehending. She lures, she guides, she bids him burst his fetters. And if he can match her import, the two, the knower and the known, will be released from every limitation. Woman is the sublime acme of sensuous adventure."

According to the rules of courtly love, however, the hero must hearn the maiden; in the course of the SW story, Han has already performed three typical tasks for his princess: fighting his way to her side, rescuing her, and working in the service of her surrogate father, the Rebellion. Now Han
shows Leia his "gentle heart," and their true love begins to bloom.

(c. Mary Henderson, "Star Wars: The Magic of Myth")

 

Awwwww..Han's "gentle heart"....I'm melting. How sweet.

 

um.... i have a Q.
who the heck is LFL?

 

I'm sorry but I feel I must comment on this... The lines in the Chewbacca comic do not state that Han loved Chewie more... the line that Leia says is "Han loves me... I know he does." and goes on to say that sometimes she felt jealous of the way Han was with Chewie and the kids...

So she never says that he loves Chewie more than he loves her... And now she feels guilty thinking that she just wanted Chewie to go away sometimes... It's more about her feelings for Chewie than her feelings for Han...or Han's feelings for her...

 

I thought that line meant that Han was much closer to Chewie and his kids than he would ever be to Leia . . . and this is also followed in the books, like how he let his kids close but not his wife . . . It seems he doesn't love her at all in the EU books, especially the NJO. *sigh* Quite depressing.

 

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Joda29344,

"LFL" stands for "LucasFilms, Limited", George Lucas's production company.

 

uppers

 

The Chewie issue:

This was crap, plain and simple. The idea was to show Leia as being jealous of the fact her husband had a close friendship with Chewie, as if that somehow invalidates Han's love for her, bull****. This is a 'show a woman as pathetically insecure and over controlling' story of the worst kind.

Han would never have said, in private or public, to anyone, that he thought his wife's friends, such as Winter or possibly Iella, were a threat. Leia would never have been threatened by Chewie's friendship with Han, she's too secure a character for that.

The simple fact is that relationships and friendships are not mutually exclusive, we do not have to choose between the one we love and our friends, at least not if those friends are true friends. Yes, it takes work by all parties but it is worth it. The story was utter turd.

The Han/Leia separation is similarly bull****. But, in response to the BP reconcliation debate...

How many times has anyone here apologised when it isn't their fault because it is the easiest option out of a nasty hole? I have, and I know why Leia would have. Because if you know a person, you know why they do what they do and you also know in certain situtations they are not ready to apologise even if they should, that there is a level of pain present in their spirit that removes the right of judgement from you, at which point all that remains is forgiveness. I have done this, it is not easy but it is sometimes the only option.

regards

Jedi Ben

 

*applause* Well said, Jedi Ben. That comic made me nauseous. It made Leia look totally posessive and controlling, as well as weak and insecure. And you're completely right that being close friends with someone in no way means they can't love someone else romantically.

Now that you have said it, I can see the reunion in a different light, although I still think it was too short . . . I guess we have to keep in mind Leia and Han have been married for almost twenty years and know each other like no one else, therefore some things said have different meanings only the other can understand.

BTW if anyone is interested in reading some other people's opinions on that part of the comic here is a link (warning, quite angry people): http://pub30.ezboard.com/fsoulofthejedifrm12.showMessage?topicID=45.topic

 

uppers!

eeyore, I think Han's love for Leia is evident in that he gave up absolutely everything to be with her . . . his smuggling, his old lifestyle, his scoundrel days. He had to love her more than anything to be willing to make that sacrifice. Also, in the BFC, when she chose the NR over him, he didn't hold it against her at all . . . He was even proud of her that she would make that choice, and promised that he would kill himself in case she did chose him. I agree that the NJO needs to have more romantic moments between them, though.

 

When I saw that comic I had to put it down. I could not comprehend the crapulence behind it. That was THE WORST character assisination of Leia since the monster known as COPL.

Are we supposed to believe Leia, one of the most selfless, noble woman in the SW universe had a repressed hatred against her husband's best friend?!?! The lovable, gentle Wookiee who unquestionably transferred his Life Debt from Han to her when Han was put in carbonite? He was not "Han's friend" he was HER friend too! My God! *I* am nowhere near as selfless as Leia is and I understand that men cannot devote 100% of their love and energy towards their spouse. I wouldn't *want* them too. Just as woman need their girl friends to talk to about women stuff, guys need guys to talk to about men stuff.

All that comic did was make Leia look 1) totally posessive 2) controlling 3) weak 4) insecure 5) selfish

In the movies, she was the complete opposite of all those traits. Sadly, the EU has killed the character I know and love. =(

 

Oh...my...god....! Ariel, I just went to that link you posted and read the "transcript" of what Leia said. That is..gah! It's a disgrace!!!! She would *never* say or think that! I can't even.....seriously. That's sooo awful. It's like CoPL revisited. Ugh.

 

sorry to put you through that Yanksfan! =( You know what's weird, she looked really old and aged in the Chewie comics, and then she magically looked young and beautiful on the cover of Balance Point. Maybe she used some Star Wars medical technique.

 

Naw... the easy explanation is that it wasn't Leia at all in the Chewbacca comic. It was a Vong clone. That bit of the story arc was going to appear in Siege, and was going to be mentioned in Knightfall, but those books were cut.

 

LOL gandolf! I'll go along with that...

 

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I think one of the problems is that they talk more about Han and Leia caring for each other than actually showing it. I really liked Balance Point and in it a comment is made when Han and Leia part about her being "the spark that lit a fire in him" or something like that. But when together it doesn't really seem that way. We all know Kathy Tyers was told to hold back a little on the reconciliation. Hopefully what was supposed to happen between them in Knightfall did not get dropped. Have any of you ever written to Del Rey (politely)through their web site with comments? I did twice in the last two years and they wrote me back both times. You might try it if you have anything to say or express. I wouldn't spam them constantly or anything, but on JediNet Gentz mentioned after having been at some convention (I forget which one) that the people in the DelRey and LFL booths encouraged fans to give thoughts on the story line. So I don't think they mind.

 

"Hopefully what was supposed to happen between them in Knightfall did not get dropped."

It did =( =( =(

Yet another showing of how LFL leaves Han/Leia fans out in the dust.

"Have any of you ever written to Del Rey (politely)through their web site with comments?"

Can you give me the website and how to do this please?

 

Sure-I guess I can put this here.
www.randomhouse.com/delrey How do you know it won't be included in one of Keyes books?
When you get on the site they have a place you can click to contact them.

 

Thanks

Tyers said so herself.

 

I want more Han and Leia.

Less of those anonymous X-wing pilots and random EU characters that no one cares about.

Up.

 

Really? I missed that. What a bummer Hopefully they will make up for it some time in the future.

 

Hopefully. I'm getting sick of how the Han/Leia romance has taken a backseat to the Luke/Mara thing. Even in Balance Point, which should have focused a great deal on the Han/Leia love story because they had just been reuinted after a year long separation, it took a backseat to Luke and Mara. *sigh*