TO LFL - Stop abusing Han and Leia's Romance!

The name "bria" causes bile to rise in my throat. Good god, Jewlmc has put horrid images into my mind. *gag* Han being brought to the after life by Bria. LOL!! It would almost be funny because think what a kick in the face it would be to all us Han and Leia fans.

HA HA! I would be soooooooooo mad! (why am I laughing? because it would just be *that* cruel)

 

Freyja

OK I can see that, yes, I do think in Star Wars there is definitely an afterlife for both people, Force-sensitive or not, I just think the Force sensitive people are the ones that can come back and visit the living, like Obi-Wan could. UGH, bad image of a Bria ghost following Han around.

Anyhow, in the afterlife, umm all I can say is...Bria better not lead Han to it. I can see her waiting there for him, since he was HER soulmate, even though she was not his...but please..God no. I know Han will probably die in one of the later books, but if they do THAT..well if you thought I hate the EU NOW......

OK, what do you guys think Han's reaction to that would be?

 

When I read that little interview of Shelly Shapiros, they asked what characters she liked and disliked. She said Han was her favorite. She also said that even though there were some she did not like so well, she never took story lines away from them. Still, I am hoping since she likes Han so much he'll be safe. I really have to say I don't think they are going to kill off the last big three. Look what happened with Chewie. I think it is too much of a risk. And when it's all said and done, what would have been the point? The series will be done and everyone will look back at it as this run of books that killed off a lot of old characters and will tell no on else to read them(many are already). I think they just wanted to scare us and it will end there(LFL read: If this was your intention, ignore everything I have said and know that we are all still terrified over who you will kill next). As for Bria, I rue the day A.C Crispin ever came up with her and will be thankful if not one other novel mentions her name from here on out.

 

I hope so. Actually if I think anyone is in danger of dying it is Leia. She is the least popular of the Big four, although I can understand why since she is so annoying in the novels...thank God for the movies otherwise I would hate her too.

Bria what can I say...I hate her. I just got the feeling Crispin was trying to make it seem like Bria was Han's true love, and he only went to Leia because Bria died and he "saw" Bria in Leia, and the only reason he helped the Rebellion out was because his true love was part of it.....GAG! Sorry, she is the part about the EU I despise the most. It just made Leia look like a rebound and a second choice. Plus the excerpt from Hero's Trial where Han thought fondly about her was stupid and pointless and REALLY should have not been put in...for Han to harbour feelings that long about his dead EX (many people convinently forget that Han dumped her) girlfriend is pathetic....OK done my ranting now.

 

P.S You were right about the coming back as a ghost thing. I wasn't meaning to suggest they could do that. Bad example on my part- I just didn't know what one to use. I don't think anyone at LFL would want to do something like that with Bria. It just doesn't make sense. Fans wouldn't like it. They know that. Han and Leia have been treated so bad I think we all get a little paranoid sometimes. It's to be expected.

 

Yeah I don't think they'll do it. No one really liked Bria, she wasn't a very popular character. But then, you never know LFL is pretty cruel to Han/Leia fans in general.

 

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OK...if the horrible nightmarish scenerio jewlmc gave to us comes true in the NJO (Bria leads Han to the afterlife), what do you think Han's reaction will be to that? Just wondering . . .

 

Bria: Han, at last we can be together!
Han: Begone, evil spirit!

 

LOL Gandolf! THANK YOU!!!!

 

Hehe,rejection! Maybe it wouldn't be so bad after all.

 

Ariel- try and think of it this way. Bria offered Han the chance to join the Rebellian twice and he refused. If he really wanted to be with her that was all he had to do. When she died it was sort of like,Oh what a shock..oh well all in the past now, time to move on.Not a huge tragedy. Nothing remotely like the Chewie disaster. Then along comes Luke and Leia and he suddenly decides to stay. I like to think it had to do with they themselves-especially Leia. Any help? Still hate her? Yeah, me too. Something to think about though.

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Yeah that makes me feel better, thanks . I think Han's greatest act of love towards Leia was when he signed to be a General and took on one of the most dangerous missions just for her. Well ok I guess the main thing that bugged me about her was her mary-suism and that she seemed to be created to "out-do" Leia. I mean, it was like she was exactly like Leia but better in every single way possible...so that annoyed me. I guess I just like to believe Leia was Han's one and only love. so it wasn't really her that bothered me but the *idea* of her. Plus the fact that she showed up again in HT did not help matters....

 

I don't think Bria was created to out-do Leia. She was created to be eerily similar to Leia, sort of an evil version of Leia.

Every time Leia had to choose between Light and Dark, Leia chose the Light path, the difficult path. Bria always took the easy path. If Bria could use the Force, she'd be pretty Dark indeed. Bria's fanatism and hatred cost her her friends, her family, and of course Han, and didn't even help the rebellion in the long run. It would have been easy for Leia to try to put aside her feelings, and put off the rescue attempt until after Endor. Instead, she put Han first, and as it turned out her descision won her her man, and in the long run the battle of Endor.

I think Bria was created to show just how easy it might have been for Leia to slip. Rather than detracting from Leia's character, she shows just how strong Leia is.

 

Hmm OK I like that Gandolf . . . That's what I *want* to believe, I'm sure if you asked Crispin herself she'd have a very different answer, but I'll use my own justifications. What I don't like is when people say the reason Han fell for Leia was because he "saw" Bria in Leia, the spirited rich girl who'd lost everything who was Rebel leader, etc, etc...I like to believe that Han saw the differences and that's why he liked Leia, differences being that Leia was a leader but not a fanatic, and her relative innocence and purity as compared to Bria...I saw Bria drawn in shades of gray while Leia was white...however that's how I see it, again I'm sure Crispin has a different response on this.

Mostly what bothers me about her is that she had to die..Why? Why couldn't there have been something like Callista, and just had them part ways? That seems to suggest that Bria's death ended their relationship and not them breaking up which I don't like...and secondly, that she died like a few days before Han met Leia. It made Han look like a jerk for getting interested in antoher woman so fast after losing Bria. Plus the whole "she stole the Death Star plans" contributes to her Mary Suism...Anyhow that's just MO, I'll leave now . . .

 

I don't think the mistake with Bria's fate was killing her off, or even killing her off to get the Death Star plans. It was killing her off in a heroic way that I found annoying.

If we got to see more of the operation, and got to see Bria shooting down civilians who got in the way of her team, without a flicker of remorse, then I would have liked her death more. Her fall would be complete. Instead, AC Crispen had her go out in a blaze of glory, which didn't fit in with the direction that the character was going.

Bria should have been the MacBeth of Star Wars. Once noble and good, fallen from grace, and meeting an evil, unrepentant end. Crispen cheated us out of that ending.

 

Hmm I like that Gandolf . . . I think her heroic act was supposed to negate all the bad things she's done, I remember reading that somewhere by Crispin. But to me that doesn't work, just because you die for a good cause, doesn't erase all the bad things you've done and make you a martyr like Bria came out to be.

BTW I love your new name! LOL

 

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Talk about Han and Leia's romance....not Han and Bria's.

 

This manly new name is just temporary, for the duration of this manly mans holiday.



?But to me that doesn't work, just because you die for a good cause, doesn't erase all the bad things you've done?

I tend to agree with you. However, remember that Vader did a lot of bad things, and we consider him redeemed because he died for a good cause.

Fortunately, there is a major difference between Vader and Bria. Vader came to realize in his final moments of life just how wrong he was, and died doing the right thing for the right reason. Conversely, Bria did the right thing for the wrong reason. Her actions helped the Rebellion, but her reasons for her actions (hatred for the Empire) were wrong.

 

Yes that's true, God of Luv Vader's redemption cannot be compared to Bria's because she died for the Rebellion in a way that was not noble and could be even looked upon as selfish; she was a fanatic of it because she was haunted from the ghosts of her past; Vader died to save his son, totally unselfish.

Ah well, I guess it's not really Bria herself that annoys me, just the *idea* of her, I just like to believe Leia was the only woman Han loved. I think when Lucas introduced Han in ANH it was a given that Han had been a loner his whole life.

Umm...what does everyone else think of these colours? Please tell me they're only temporary. When I'm in the computer lab supposedly programming I can't hide *this* you know.

 

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