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Top 10 midichlorian counts

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Sith-Pirate, Dec 5, 2001.

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  1. UCLAJediMaster

    UCLAJediMaster Jedi Master star 4

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    >>>>>>>>However, I disagree that Anakin's loss of parts of his body would lead to a weakening of his force abilities.

    Master Yoda said that "size matters not", and so IMO force strength or weakness doesn't depend on how much body tissue one has, but only on the availability of midichlorians to that tissue.

    I also agree that it is difficult to try and compare the old generation with the new. There can be no comparisons except for Luke and Vader (and we don't know if Vader was trying in RoTJ), so to try to make a comprehensive list of all the jedi from both eras is pretty impossible now. <<<<<<<


    acutally it is midichlorians per cell... it would have to be otherwise darth vader would not be powerful at all and tenel ka would be weaker once she lost her arm. the novels never discuss any of this.


    also i think that we can compare vader and luke as far as force strength/ability... anakin is stronger than luke... he has to be he was concieved by the force. just because luke beat him in ROTJ does not make Luke stronger.. just a better fighter. i hight doubt yoda would stand up to mace in a light sabre match but we can assume that yoda has more midichlorians than mace because it is stated in TPM.
     
  2. Risste

    Risste Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Yeah, maybe Luke was just a better fighter. And then, maybe he wasn't even that... Vader wasn't trying to kill him, remember. Luke was in a fit of rage, trying to kill vader for all he was worth.

    Something to think about.
     
  3. JediJSolo

    JediJSolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Alright you guys. Now that I think about it you are probably right.

    How about this theory though:
    Having lost so much of his natural body, the machine that kept him alive wasn?t enough to do the job all on its own. Vader needed to use the Force constantly to keep himself alive.

    That is why he was also able to defeat the Emperor; because he stopped concentrating on keeping himself alive long enough to gain enough strength from the Force to kill the Emperor. He had the power to kill the Emperor all along; he simply couldn?t without killing himself in the process.

    Does that sound like a more plausible explanation?
     
  4. virtualoctopus

    virtualoctopus Jedi Youngling star 2

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    1. Anakin Skywalker
    2. Luke / Leia
    3. Ben
    4. Jania / Jacen / Anakin
    5. Yoda
     
  5. Risste

    Risste Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Yeah, thats a good point, JediJSolo. Come to think of it, That explains the constant heavy breating...hehe. Never mind, that was bad. But a good theory, I like it. Imagine having to lug that huge suit around...Blah.
     
  6. wild_karrde

    wild_karrde Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Based on proof from books/films, not my own "personal favs" list

    1. Anakin Skywalker [highest ever, concieved by midis]
    2. Luke Skywalker [son of Anakin Skywalker]
    3. Leia Organa [daughter of Anakin Skywalker, but shows less Force-talent than Luke]
    4. Yoda [Highest count before Anakin was found]
    5. Kyp Durron [Luke himself said he had more Force "in him" than anyone he ever met (Jedi Search)]
    6. Ben Skywalker [Grandson of Anakin, mother is Jedi Master]
    7. Anakin Solo [Grandson of Anakin, shows more Force-talent than either sibling]
    8. Jacen Solo [Grnadson of Anakin, shows more Force-talent than his sister]
    9. Jaina Solo [Granddaughter of Anakin]
    10. Mace Windu [Head of Jedi Council]

    wk
     
  7. Quiwan

    Quiwan Jedi Padawan star 4

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    1. Ben Skywalker
    2. Anakin Skywalker
    3. Luke/Leia
    4. Anakin Solo/Jiana/Jacen
    5. Kyp Durron
    6. Yoda
    7. Mace
    8. Palpatine

    I only went to 8 because i think there is a huge drop off after palpatine and everyone is just about average.
    I think Ben is first because with his parents he might be just a little higher than Anakin and Luke.
    I'm certain Luke/Leia have the same count and that the solo kids have the same count as well, but the solo kids aren't as high as Luke/Leia.
    I put Kyp under them because in SBS Anakin says that he senses a force presence just slightly less than his (not sure exactly how he says it) and it turns out to be Kyp. As for that little test in the JAT that Luke did on Kyp, i really doubt that scene would have turned out quite the same way after TPM came out and the whole midiclorian thing came to light.
    Yoda above Mace because if Mace was above Yoda, Obi-wan would have probably would have said "thats higher than Master Windu's" instead of Yoda's.
    I put Palpatine at the bottom because I have always thought that he was just sucking his power off of Vader like some leech and was manipulating him rather than using outright force to control him.
     
  8. UCLAJediMaster

    UCLAJediMaster Jedi Master star 4

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    my new list edited and updated for your reading and discussion pleasure...

    1) Anakin Skywalker (undisputed)
    2) Luke Skywalker/Leia
    3) Yoda
    4) Palpy
    5) Kyp
    6) Anakin Solo/Jacen/Jaina
    7) Mace
    8) Zekk


    i would like to thank all those people who helped me with this endevor... mostly myself....

     
  9. Aroa

    Aroa Jedi Master star 1

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    1. Anakin Skywalker
    2. Luke Skywalker
    3. Leia Solo
    4. Yoda
    5. Anakin Solo
    6. Obi-Wan Kenobi
    7. Kyp Durron
    8. Jacen Solo
    9. Jania Solo
    10.Mace Windu
     
  10. UCLAJediMaster

    UCLAJediMaster Jedi Master star 4

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    how can luke and leia and jacen and jaina be on different levels??



    okay a question to you all???
    do twins have same midi count?
     
  11. Face Loran

    Face Loran Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Because they are fraternal twins, they don't necessarily inherit the same traits.
     
  12. Tsavong_Lah

    Tsavong_Lah Jedi Youngling star 3

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    midichlorians.

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    Why George why :(
     
  13. Jedi_Rock_Star

    Jedi_Rock_Star Jedi Youngling

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    CORRAN HORN HAS ALMOST NO MIDIChLORIN..
    read I, Jedi!
     
  14. JediJSolo

    JediJSolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    As much as I think that Corran?s midichlorian count is relatively low, I, Jedi does not prove that he has a low count. The only thing that I, Jedi proved, as far as Luke?s testing methods were concerned, was that those methods were effective but inaccurate.
     
  15. Doright

    Doright Jedi Knight star 5

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    Didn't Lucas say that Obiwan was/will be one of the greatest Jedi's ever or something like that. Wouldn't that imply his MC count could be higher than Mace?


    Just thinking here.
     
  16. Quiwan

    Quiwan Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Who's to say that midichlorians work the same way other genetics-type things work?

    What if when a child is born they have the same midichlorian count as their parents?

    If one parent has a midichlorian count of 100 and the other has 50, maybe the child has 150.

     
  17. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Midichlorians are the star wars equivilant of mitochondria, according to one of GL's interviews.
     
  18. Dark_JEDI_OZ

    Dark_JEDI_OZ Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Here is my top 10 list, (all time SW, not just NJO)
    1. Anakin Skywalker [the chosen one, highest ever etc. etc.]
    2. Yoda [strong in the force, 900 years old, etc.]
    3. Luke Skywalker [son of anakin but I "think" count would deminish from parent to child]
    4. Leia Organa Solo [daughter of Anakin]
    5. Darth Sidious/Palpatine [only 1 or 2 others have said this, come on the master sith who Vader obeys/fears until ROTJ]
    6. Ben Skywalker [son of luke and mara, grandson of anakin]
    7. Obi-wan Kenobi [general, defeats Anakin/Vader the first time, "strike me down and I shall be come more powerful then you could possibly imagine."]
    8. Jacen/Jaina/Anakin Solo [All grandchildren of Anakin, same parents, why should either have a higher count then the others]
    9. Mace Windu
    10. Kyp Durron
     
  19. GS335

    GS335 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think that all three of the solo kids (Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin) all have equal force potential. They all use their powers for good, but just do it differently, thats all. And, the Solo kids are not even close to Luke, or Kyp's level. As much as I dislike Kyp, Jacen or Jaina would not stand a chance against Kyp in a lightsaber duel. He wouldn't break a sweat with Jacen, Jaina, or Anakin. The Solo kids may have high midichloreans, because they are descendants of Anakin Skywalker, but they are not even close to their full potential, and Kyp has much more skill and experience in the force than any of the three Solo kids.

    So, here is my order

    1)Anakin Skywalker
    2)Yoda
    3)Luke/Leia
    4)Kyp
    5)The Solo kids
    6)Mara
    7)Corran Horn
    8)Tahiri
     
  20. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Anakin Skywalker is always going to be the highest.

    Yoda and Palpatine, along with all the older Jedi are far more skilled than those little pretenders in Luke's order.

    Luke might have more potential than most of the old Jedi, but his training is STILL incomplete. The Jedi powers used by the older Jedi and Sith far exceed any he has ever used.
     
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