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Treks Not Taken: Rejected Star Trek Movie and TV Ideas

Discussion in 'Archive: The Amphitheatre' started by JediOverlord, Sep 30, 2008.

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  1. Fluke_Groundrunner

    Fluke_Groundrunner Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I would still like to see one final TNG movie with Q as the pseudo-villain.
     
  2. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    Me too. A feature film would offer a much better demonstration for the scope of Q's powers, not to mention his ability to annoy everyone around him, than an hour-long episode.
     
  3. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    What I'd really like to see is what they should have done after Insurrection killed the franchise- make a TNG/DS9 handoff film. I'm certain the better strokes of Nemesis could have have been tied to a DS9-related plot, to set them up for movie audiences for them to hold their own film next time out.
     
  4. Nrf-Hrdr

    Nrf-Hrdr Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    DS9 was too much of a cult thing to make a viable feature film I think. In any case, the strength of that series was in its slow burning story and character arcs - i'm not sure a movie would add much to it.
     
  5. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Time-Traveling F&G Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    And if they wanted to do a Romulan plot/revenge arc, they could have brought Sisko back from the Wormhole, and had him and Garrak on trial for blowing up their Ambassador in Season 6 and had the Enterprise involved in the rescue.
     
  6. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I'm not sure they would leverage an episode plot so directly. Elements from an episode like the emotion chip, sure, reference character history like Khan or the Borg? Sure. But they'd want to avoid the feeling of "were we supposed to watch this episode first?" in general audiences.

    Still, something could have been done, i think. At the very least they could combine DS9 and Voyager casts to cover both station-stories and greater-Federation elements if they wanted to, but I think DS9 could handle it's own film. Plus, if it's strength is in larger arcs, then why not aim for a trilogy with a larger arc ala Trek 2-4 (though more specific)?
     
  7. Lurking_Around

    Lurking_Around Jedi Knight star 6

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    I'm still waiting for a Trek movie about the Romulans. Romulans, not 'pseudo-vampires whose make-up is about the same quality as you would get in an episode of Buffy'.

    Sometimes I hate Nemesis more than Insurrection.

    [face_plain]

    Oh well, all Trek movies are better than the first one, Star Trek the Motion(less) Picture.

    "Kirk unit!"

    :p
     
  8. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Not a fan of the Remans eh..

    I think a limited run show or film involving Sulu and the Excelsior would have been cool, but it's too late in the game for them to use the originial Sulu..
     
  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Unless it's Admiral Sulu...
     
  10. DarthArsenal6

    DarthArsenal6 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Khan Khan Khan Khan Khan CAN'T !


    THis is where I had a problem with trek: Recycling stories
    Just because No. 2 did well, the whole of the trek writers/Producer/Directors/Excutive Pro wanted to pull in more money with the revenge thing again and again and again. Good script, great ideas common sence and great science just been thrown out of the window.

    What happen to other stories lines of 60 trek like the mirror universe
    or going to other multi verse like they do in Sliders
    What happen to Proper thought-provoking Science fiction ?

    In DS9 we saw a lot of space battles so why haven't they not discuss the aftermath, like casualties in sick bay like in ER, and that, - I wanted to see the reality of space war, like being exposed to space, cus war is nasty, and its not glamorous. We have to understand Space war at the time was more glamoured compared today because of Star wars
    I don't care if they up the cert. ratings or cut it for TV, just bring it out on DVD fully no cut.

    The lack of knowledge, imagination and enthusiasm was so evident with Nemisis, thats why we had the Nosferatu vampire look- a-likes and the director of Nemisis didn't know if Data was an alien or not !

    This movie could have been so much better, the Idea of the odd number curse must have been a real splat on their faces with that movie.

    Also Trek Needed to be much more human instead of being boring !


    PS Star Trek Motion(full) picture was one the best trek films , see blade runner.
     
  11. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Nemesis was flawed- primarily with the B4 subpot (and the offroad action sequence leading to his discovery) and it being somewhat unoriginal in it's similarities to Khan.

    Other than that, it was one of the more entertaining installments in the franchise and at least didn't embarass the characters and actors like Insurrection did- treating them with dignity for the most part, as well as giving us one of the best tactical battles in the whole series, even brilliantly taking the overused self destruct out of play.

    Had Nemesis followed First Contact instead of Insurrection, I can guarentee you we'd be seeing another TNG or even DS9 movie by this point. But after Insurrection, nothing was going salvage the series (especially given the idiotic release date only days before The Two Towers) no matter how good the movie- they had already blown any general audience goodwill they had recaptured with First Contact.
     
  12. DarthArsenal6

    DarthArsenal6 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    YOu could be right 2ndQuest - but personally I didn't like Contact.
    Room of improvement came to mind as I watch it, however I do admit it was a better generation movie.
    I think the real problem with trek is that it had to many lazy Writers
    Heck if they had the right people they would have taken on Star Wars and won
    Even this very forum would have been Trek forum. :p lol
    I say this cus the amount of scifi films and series could have well been a trek storyline. SUch films like Gattica, 12 Monkeys, Matrix (Minus the MA - reffering the idea that people living in virtual world which inhabitant and controled by a machine and have action rather than the MA) ,

    Another thing which annoyed me about trek was that the Feds were seen as goody goody where as Aliens were either primitive - stupid-annoying beings or aggresive-evil-untrustworthy creatures, with the exception of Vulcans.



     
  13. Darth_Omega

    Darth_Omega Force Ghost star 6

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  14. DarthArsenal6

    DarthArsenal6 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  15. Zaz

    Zaz Jedi Knight star 9

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    Some of these not-taken treks are better than those taken.

    By a mile.
     
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