When Did Obi And Yoda Find Out About Anakin's Marriage?.

When Padme asks Anakin if he was allowed to love in AOTC, he said tells her "Attachment is forbidden. Possession is forbidden. Compassion, which I would define as unconditional love, is essential to a Jedi's life. So, you might say that we are encouraged to love.? Marriage is an attachment of 2 people, so I think the Jedi would have expelled him from the Jedi Order. Obi Wan said as much when Anakin wanted to go save Padme when she fell out of the transport when they were going after Dooku. So I don't think he was above any sort of "Jedi Law". I am guessing that the Jedi went more with a "Don't ask, don't tell" stance when it came to a Jedi getting married. But I think if they did find out, they would have kicked him out. JMHO.

 

In the ROTS Novel, Obi-Wan does say to Padme, "Neither of you is very good at hiding feelings, either...Anakin has loved you since the day you med, in that horrible junk shop on Tatooine. He's never even tried to hid it though we do not speak of it. We...pretend that I don't know. And I was happy to, because it made him happy. You made him happy, when nothing else every could...I have no interest in the details of your relationship."

Just saying...

 

That's a reasonable interpretation. I think the Jedi are fine marriage so long as it doesn't interfere with a Jedi's commitment to the Order or the Republic.

 

I agree to this theory. If you notice in AOTC, Obi-Wan stepped back and let Anakin and Padme have a breif exchange in words ("Ani? My, how you've grown."). Anakin also openly told Obi-Wan how he felt about her ("just being around her again is... intoxicating."). He also tried to reassure him that she was pleased to see him.
I read on Wookieepedia that after the battle of Geonosis, Obi-Wan asked Padme to end her relationship with Anakin. So I think that even though he knew that this was wrong, he didn't really want to make them end it. Maybe it was because of his own experiences in love? I don't know, but the point is that he knew.

 

Actually, the IU explanation was that the Jedi allowed for "certain" marriages, and those 'specific cases' were related to a species' low rate of reproduction. So in the name of preservation, the Jedi Order allowed marrying...

 

I read on Wookieepedia that after the battle of Geonosis, Obi-Wan asked Padme to end her relationship with Anakin.


In which novel did this happen?

 

Agree 100 percent. In fact, I originally thought that that was the angle that Lucas would take; that Padme would be killed, maybe at the hands of Palpatine, and the Jedi would be framed for it somehow. I would have been much happier with that than the way ROTS ended up going.

 

Wild Space - Obi-Wan was ordered to speak to Padme by Yoda.

Yoda knew of Obi & Ani's argument on the gunship (when Padme was thrown out) and also witnessed the "hug" in the hangar. Yoda told Obi-Wan he was "disappointed in him" for failing to do his duty by Anakin and accused him of the same flaw of "attachment" as Anakin. It's an - interesting - take, though overall I did like the book (it's Obi-Wan centric).

 

I've only seen evidence that Yoda and Obi-Wan were aware of Anakin and Padme's feelings for one another and their unborn child/children. I have not seen any evidence that they knew about the couple's marriage.



Agree 100 percent. In fact, I originally thought that that was the angle that Lucas would take; that Padme would be killed, maybe at the hands of Palpatine, and the Jedi would be framed for it somehow. I would have been much happier with that than the way ROTS ended up going.


I couldn't care less. In fact, I'm still wondering how Luke managed to become a fully trained Jedi by the beginning of ROTJ, without returning to Dagobah and Yoda for more training. Yet, no one complains about this. I guess because it's part of the OT, instead of the PT.

 

I think that Obi-Wan did know, but he also knew the calming effect Padmé had on him. Obi-Wan also knew that Anakin also had a close relationship with a woman (his mother), and that Anakin didn't had the traditional Jedi upbringing. Therefore, I think Obi-Wan knew (prehaps he did learn something about the Living Force from Qui-Gon) that Anakin NEEDED a relationship to calm him and therefore overlooked the bending of a rule and in doing so, allowed a powerful Jedi to work at full capacity.

Yoda, on the other hand, was so bent on maintaining the rules of the order that he couldn't see the forest from the trees and was more comminted to the rules then to helping people.

Anakin suffered from "Pastor's Daughter's Syndrome," and finally being free, didn't see the reason for the rules and so disregarded them. Obi-Wan saw it, saw that Anakin found something that comforted his and gave him focus, but Yoda didn't.

 

(my keyboard isnt right tonight, so forgive thespellings and such, please)

As i do remember, there was, both in the shooting sript and the comic adptaction a scene tahta was cut, between Obi Wan and Padme. There is a photographi on the making of the movie also that i think is about this scene.

In it, Obi Wan visits Padme because he is concerned about his ex-padawan. It comes just after the opera conversation. Just after Not From A Jedi! The thinhg goes like this:

-Its Anakin. Hes been put in a dificult position as the chancelors representative, but i think its more than that. I was hoping he might have talked to you.

-Whi would he talk to me about his work?

-I know how he feels bout you, Padme.

-I dont know what you are talking about.

-I can see you two are in love. I´m worried about him. Hes changed considerably since we returned...

a transmitter beems. Mace Windy on the line

-Yes, master windu.

-Obi Wan, general grievious has been located in utapau. Prepare two clone brigasdes.

-I´m on my way (to Padme) I´m not telling the council about any of this.

-Yhank you, Obi wan.

-Please, do what you can to help him.

And then, the Obi wan Anakin goodbue scene in the landing ship ocurrs. Asyou see, no decicion about who should go in the council.

Thats from the Comic Book adptation, whivh follows SOME draft of scroipt. The shooting script version i think was quite similra.

As it is in the movie itself? There is a scene, also in the script and comic adpatation, abd, of course, the theatrical cut of the film, where Anakin feels Obi Wans presence and Padme yells him he was there earlier cause he was concernned abput him "being under a lot of strees" that, without the cut scene, to wich it refers, actually works to implicate that when Anakin is in trouble, it is natural fot Obi Wan to go speka about him with Padme, wich also implicates that in some level he knows they are somewhat close.

When Yoda tells him to look into his feelings to find Vader, the fact that he directly goes to Padme and the lack of ant doubt about the fact the Anakin is the fapther of Padmes child kinda tells us that, somehow, somewhere, deep inside, he knew, orat least, felt it.

The whole scene felt to me like that particular aspect of their relationship hadnt been touched before, mostly because it hadnt openly before, on fil. With the cut scene in the movie, it would had played diferently.

Just my two cents.

About Yoda, i dont think he really knew, but thats personla interprettation. I dont think he did beacuse atachment is forvideden and, chosen one or not, i take the movies (expanded universe aside) quite luterally on this; i can see Obi Wan lookong to the other side, as friend, mentor and brother; Yoda would or not have expelled him, but i doubt he would have looked elsewhere without a peep.