Discussions Who is your favorite female Sith/Dark Jedi?

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It would have been interesting to see how Darth Wyyrlock's daughter, Saarai, developed as a Sith.

One thing that's always intrigued me is that Darth Traya was known as the Lord of Betrayal. Presumably, Darth Zannah would have been called Lord Zannah by her apprentice. I like the notion of Lord being a unisex title. I retained the concept in my novel. I suppose Lumiya preferred to be known as the Dark Lady of the Sith in order to differentiate herself from her immediate male predecessors. Subconsciously, however, she may not yet have come to terms with the fact that she was more machine than woman.

"No, I don't miss my beauty, you fool, because it would have vanished by now anyway. Once I understood that my injuries freed me from worrying about such nonsense, I realized that I had a task that only I could fulfill."
―Lumiya

"I'm actually more machine than organic… there's a point, I think, at which a woman ceases to be a human with cybernetic implants and becomes a machine with organic parts. I believe I've crossed that threshold. And you know what? I'm not unhappy with that."
―Lumiya

After all, Darth Plagueis called himself a monster, and said the Sith should even embrace the concept.

 

The Sith is fluid, ever evolving and changing. The many cults comprise One Dream, but ai like how there is diversity in understanding the Darth title or forgoing it all together, how the dark side works (magick or midi-chlorians or both) and more. The Jedi in contrast are rather stagnant till the Altisian Jedi and New Jedi Order appear.

 

Its absolutely Lumiya for me. Great design and great character, and also somewhat underrated, since I get the feeling she could have been used to be a pretty important antagonist, even in a movie!

I liked Second Sister too, but curiously, the one who grab my attention from canon is Ninth Sister. With her, we finally get a female character that leaves behind the idea of needing to look like a supermodel to be an interesting character. I do hope we see her again, she has plenty of room for growth...

Edit: I actually remembered, there was a Grand Inquisitor in legends, Hydra, that I liked for the very same reasons! She was far less prominent that mostly anyone in this list, though...

 

Lumiya understood the value of patience far more than most Sith. Philosophically, I believe only she and Darth Plagueis could have successfully taught Darth Caedus, given his rationalizations.

 

What were Darth Cadeus’ rationalizations?

 

Not really the subject of this thread, but take your pick. He genuinely believed he could combine love with Sith philosophy and that he could use the dark side of the Force for the greater good. So...yeah. He was totally crazy.

"…Taking the life of an innocent is always harder even than taking your own, if you're sincere. This is the ultimate test of selflessness—whether you're ready to face unending emotional pain, true agony, to gain the power to create peace and order for billions of total strangers. That is the sacrifice. To be vilified by others, by people you know and care for, and for your personal sacrifice to be totally unknown to those billions you save, to do your duty as a Sith. To do your duty for the good of the galaxy. It's easy to be a clean-cut hero slaying monsters. There's always a little bit of vanity in it. There can be no room for vanity or pride in being despised."
―Lumiya

 

Does Mara Jade count?

 

I think so, she certainly was The Emperor’s Hand and used the dark side to choke people.

 

Good Point^

 

I would be afraid to encounter Mara Jade, regardless of whether I countered her as an Emperor's Hand or a Jedi.

 

Lumiya, has so much development over literally decades in comics and books. Her role in the Legacy of the Force novels as a Sith mastermind was interesting to me, despite the rather poor reputation of the LOTF series.

Not on the list, but Visas Marr is underrated as a Sith apprentice despite turning to the light eventually.

 

Lumiya was the only well-written and interesting character in Legacy of the Force

 

Lumiya is a Sith I've thought about more over the years. She and Mara Jade are the main reasons I enjoy Sacrifice by Karen Traviss.

 

Mara was the most down to earth character, more so than even Han Solo.

Some of my favorite quotes:

“Well, what happens if you need a diplomat who can also practice philosophy, fight with a lightsaber, and levitate small objects? Who else are you going to call but us?” -MARA JADE SKYWALKER, TO CAL OMAS

“Lose it. There's only one Hand in the Empire, and I'm it.” MARA JADE

“Partying with both sides of the Force. You knew how to live.” -CADE SKYWALKER About Mara

 

Was Mara more powerful as a darksider than as a Jedi?

 

Yes. For she was ruthless as the Emperor’s Hand. As a Jesi she hesitated, and it cost her, her very life at the hands of a Dark Sider.

 

I remember her being pretty ruthless in her fight against Jacen/Caedus. The latter had to resort to a desperation tactic just to kill her. In fact, while Caedus was more powerful in the Force than most, he was a relatively crappy duelist who was a little worse than Darth Plagueis.

 

Jacen was an outstanding fighter in the NJO
JINO, not so much

Mara wasn't acting so much like a Jedi in her final hours

 

That’s because Cade Skywalker says this of Mara:

“Partying with both sides of the Force. You knew how to live.”

 

One of the things that I lament is that we never got an unnaturally empowered female Sith Lord who increased their power through permanent alteration. Vitiate, Darth Nihilus, and Darth Sion were all unnaturally empowered insofar as they changed their very natures to make themselves more powerful than they were ever meant to be. While Darth Traya had a much more academic understanding of the Force than Sion and Nihilus, she was not on their power level. And for all my fondness of Darth Zannah and Lady Lumiya, this is due to their respective characterizations rather than their powers.

One rather disturbing aspect I noticed with regard to Darth Traya, Darth Zannah, and Lady Lumiya is that they all suffered abuse and trauma. Other than Darth Vader and Darth Krayt, you don't see many male Sith Lords experiencing stuff like that. People tend to forget that Darth Malgus could be very misogynistic, and Darth Sidious was very successful in vanquishing that little bit of light inside of him.

 

We need a proper Dark Lady, I agree. I love Zannah and Maladi, and Dark Rey (wish she was real), but we need one who is as powerful as the Great Sith Lords. Now is the time to create one.

As for Trauma you need to include Darth Bane, his father physically abused him horribly, “Since childhood, Dessel (Darth Bane) has known only the abuse of his hateful father and the dangerous, soul-crushing labor of a cortosis miner.” (Path of Destruction, Drew Karpyshyn). He goes into more detail of what his father did in Rule of Two, Chapter One.

 

Well Jacen/Caedus went though exttreme trauma, the whole embrace of pain, his sister leaving him for death beforehand....

 

Yeah, but you don’t really think about that when you see how insane he became as Caedus.