Why do people hate Anakin so much?

Nothing personal, but if you hate it all so much, why are you here? Are you sure you're not Darth_Fruit_Fly?

 

okay, let's run with this: if your duty/goal in life was to bring balance to something, say my credit card, and i told you to leave it, but you would hear voices to tell you to do it. would you then go against your destiny and still do it even if i said, no?

 

Bait? You want to talk to me about bait when you have the gall to post a thread in the OT forum titled is Star Wars...Meh? Proposterous. This thread, just like yours is bait by it's very design so you can't realistically expect for everyone to just gush all over it. Anyway I've said all I have to say on the matter, so case closed for me. Off to the Basher's Sanctuary.

 

The knots are already there, I'm just following them to discover how to untie them. Ever meet one of those really stubborn knots where you have to actually figure out how it got there in the first place? That's like what we have here with the Force.

 

A lot of people keep saying that Anakin was not fully to blame for his actions because he was manipulated by Palpatine and he was motivated by love etc.
But on Mustafar, just before the duel, Anakin?s true motivation is revealed; he wants more power. Padme, who he is supposed to be trying to save, pleads with him to see sense, but all he can think about is how powerful he will become and how he can overthrow Palpatine and rule the galaxy. I can see how people could sympathise with Anakin until that scene, but after that everyone should realise that Anakin?s actions (killing younglings etc) were carried out in pursuit of the power he had wanted for years. This is confirmed when Obi-wan says that Anakin?s lust for power has turned Padme against him.
So in response to the original question, I dislike Anakin because of what I feel were his motivations for his actions, as well as the actions themselves.

 

hey.

i think that might have to do with GL not being entirely clear with the concept itself. hence he mixes so many religious concepts... uh, wrong thread maybe.

i don't usually wonder about knots, to be honest, but i kind of see your point.

i wonder with my concept of achieving balance (internal - jedi order and external - sith) how anakin could have done it in this order with their particular mindset and with his particular mindset. i don't see it. i don't see him approaching them to change something (he doesn't anyway) and i don't see them take him as a learning opportunity.

which is why maybe everything had to happen how it happens. which drives me mad.

 

I know what all those words mean but not when you put them in that order. Could you try that again?

 

not tonight.

 

and yet here you are..in a SW debating site,talking about the movies that you hate SOOOOO much....interesting..

thanks god the TOS doesnt allow me to say what i think of posters like you

 

But why does he want power? Padme may very well be the convenience his emotions take in order to fully be felt and expressed, but what underlies all of this is his deeper needs. He may listen to Padme, but then he cannot save her life. Double bind. To him, he'd rather have the power in order to make things the way he wants them so that he doesn't have to deal with losing that which matters most to him. Convoluted, yes, but the desire to have what he wants forever outweighs the desire to have what he wants now and lose it later.

 

That's probably best, we'll see you when you get back.

 

Yes, it happened the way it did. The question is, was this what was supposed to happen? There is one point underlying everything: Anakin was meant to destroy the Sith. Now, does that mean he would have destroyed the Sith at any time, or did it take what it took in order to happen? If it didn't need to have the Jedi order wiped out, then why did it happen? Why the events that allowed such a thing? If the Jedi order was not meant to be wiped out, then why did the Force allow things to progress as they did, if it has a will?

And why didn't the Jedi consult the Force over Anakin or its will? Did they even believe in the will of the Force? In that case, they were carrying out their will, not the Force's, which puts them in the same boat with the Sith in that regard.

 

i hope we dont...., please dont ban me.........

 

Why would I ban you? If you're not causing trouble you're fine. Stay on topic and be polite. You haven't been trolling the thread.

 

be polite...

not trolling....!


stay on topic .... !!!



i will be banned forever *sniffles*

but i promise to do my best to behave and do what you just told me

 

So in conclusion, the character just doesn't fufill MOST Star Wars fans expectations

This statement by the namesake of the protaganist of A CLOCKWORK ORANGE is typical of the delusions of grandeur many people have on the net. There are tens of millions of Star Wars fans across the world, and unless you've gone door to door to and talked personally to all of us, you can't really make the assumption that MOST fan's expectations were not fulfilled just because yours were not. No one really knows if expectations were met, including me, but box office figures and DVD sales indicate on some level that some people were satisfied. But there's no statistical evidence to show people were disappointed. However, if you didn't like the character, that's fine.

 

I'm with ya JWD. A lot of times we tend to think that a lot of people, if not everyone, share our personal view of things even if that view is slightly skewed as his in IMO.

And SR70 simmer down bro. You're always scared to death you're gonna get perma banned. You're a fine upstanding poster except for the occasional socializing post, which I also have a problem with


We need a social thread in ROTS forum. I don't like the JCC all that much. They can get mean in there

 

my posts to Rhonderoo about not banning me were mostly sarcastic but thanks anyway chozn1


this boards wouldnt be the same without the ocasional social posts

 

No, evil can exist. But it's the evils of the Trade Federation and the Hutt crime cartel. Not the Sith Order.

The point is Luke made the same mistakes as his father. The only difference is that he saw the mistakes through his father. Had both Skywalkers consulted the Force and listened to their Masters, they wouldn't be in half the **** they're in.

The Jedi have to deal with everything. From the Republic to the Separatists. Anakin had to deal with Anakin. He couldn't grow a pair and that's why he's a coward. He took the easy way out.

Their methods were fine. He just needed to train himself to let go and stay the hell away from Palpatine.

It is an advantage according to the Force. The only drawback was that they kept defending the Republic without seeing just how bad it was.

The Force wanted balance. It may have had a hand in the blaster bolt hitting the Hyperdrive. It may have had a hand in Tatooine being remote. It did have a hand in guding Qui-gon to Watto's and it did have a hand in the fact that only Watto had the parts. But who said that Qui-gon was heeding the Force's will in taking Anakin then?

It's obvious the Force wanted the Jedi connected to the Republic, because that's what came before and what will come again. What hurt the Jedi was the lack of confronting the Sith, which would've aided in their being prepared. By fighting Sidious, Yoda realizes that there is a need to adapt. To change tactics.

 

Must I ask this question, and I don't want my throat slit, but why would someone hate Anakin and still like Star Wars? He doesn't have to be your favorite character, but why hate him when the story revolves around him?

 

No... now let me see your throat















Just kidding. I can think of a lot of movies where I don't like a character... even the main one, but I still like the story and the movie itself. I don't like Hannibal, but he's the center of those films ya know?

 

So all of Star Wars revolves around Anakin? Every single movie? Not quite. The OT revolved around Luke. Besides, there were better characters that I liked in the PT (like Obi-Wan). Liking or disliking Anakin didn't mean a whole lot to my enjoyment of the films. You know, Anakin was the BAD GUY and I never rooted for him. So my dislike of him couldn't hurt my enjoyment of anything. Disliking him was perfectly natural.

 

I don't hate Anakin, but he is not by any means my favorite character. I was curious about Vader's backstory after seeing the OT.

There are many wonderful central characters in the saga. I saw the OT first. I loved Obi-Wan, Leia and Luke as soon as I saw A New Hope. Han Solo is another favorite. I wanted to know Obi-Wan's story as a young Jedi based on the outstanding performance of Alec Guiness. Ewan McGregor's portrayal of the character more than met my expectations in this respect. I've come to appreciate some of the new characters introduced in the PT.

Edit- I agree with those who have said that dislike of a key character doesn't have to affect one's enjoyment of a film(s).

 

oh I understand, I see how he wouldn't be someone's favorite, but hating him is a little far fetched since he is the main character. He's my favorite because I have a soft spot for the tragic characters