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Discussion in 'Community' started by The2ndQuest , Apr 26, 2010.

  1. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony Chosen One star 7

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    RDJ = Franchise Viagra
     
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  2. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 6

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    Yeah the multiverse line also makes me think that he's a Tony variant.To be honest I have zero attachment to Dr. Doom so I'm not that annoyed that Doom might be a Tony variant. Still it does feel like a very desperate move.
     
  3. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    A new Doctor Doom, done right, was the biggest thing I was looking forward to in the MCU since Disney bought FOX back in 2018.
     
  4. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    It all depends on how they execute it. I mean, I even enjoyed the MCU movies and show content from last year, except for Secret Invasion. It's just a very strange decision all around
     
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  5. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    thoughts on the concept of
    "anchor beings" and whether Tony Stark
    is one

    Deadpool III spoiler under there...
     
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  6. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    We all know it's really Madisynn. She's an anchor being... but not where you thiiiink.

    The RDJ/Russo Price Tag:
    -The Russos are getting $80 to do both films, with "escalators" after the films cross $750m and $1b. the films will also be produced under their own AGBO banner (which isn't something Marvel usually does).
    -RDJ will receive "significantly more" than them to play Doom in both films, plus private jet travel, dedicated security, and a trailer encampment. Supposedly he would only agree to return to the MCU if the Russos directed, as "they were the only ones he would work with".
    -RDJ has made between $500-600m in total from his MCU appearances to date.
    -According to Feige and Favreau, RDJ was almost cast as Doom 20 years ago before he ended up getting the Iron Man role.
     
  7. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony Chosen One star 7

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    I had the same thought and one could argue that
    616 has been dying since Endgame and what happened in Endgame? Tony died.
     
  8. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    That's the point, potentially. And we had a lot of Stark Variants die in What If?
     
  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I'm not sure it'll play that big of a role unless we're involving the far future, as Paradox says a timeline typically takes thousands of years to decay naturally after the loss of an anchor being. It probably also depends on how that anchor being is lost. Logan would have died eventually, after all. There's a implication there that how/when he went out is what began the unraveling.

    EDIT- And that would be further supported by Logan being set 4 years in the future from when D&W takes place.
     
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  10. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Well it is interesting to consider
    Logan died in a ultimate gesture of love and self sacrifice which still led to a thousand year timeline collapse. (Paradox just sought to expedite it because he's a jerk). MCU Tony can definitely be considered the same, of course we don't know what exactly an Anchor Being is and if Tony was one for the Sacred Timeline. Interesting to consider if it gets mentioned again especially in the context of Doctor Doom possible Tony variant
     
  11. rocknroll41

    rocknroll41 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    while these are all cool theories, I have a feeling the anchor being thing was just something that was made up for D&W and won’t be mentioned ever again.
     
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  12. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I don't think it will come up again as far as it applies to 616/199999. Any threat to the Sacred Timeline will likely come from incursions, as introduced in MOM.

    However, I could see anchor beings coming up in relation to other splinter universes. Like, say, for example, the Fantastic Four. Galactus chomps down on Earth, takes out the anchor being, FF escape from the resulting universal decay. Or applied to less important timelines (in conjunction with incursions) to explain why more characters are converging on Battle World in Secret Wars.
     
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  13. Master_Lok

    Master_Lok Force Ghost star 6

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    Yeah, and will the comic artists and writers who created these storylines see any kind of nice bank and/or residuals? Ed Brubaker had to fight for additional compensation for Captain America The Winter Soldier when there was no reason to.

    The excessive payday and contract riders are way out of line: That's my sole objection to bringing these folks back.
     
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  14. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Correct. The video that Marvel posted credits Downey as Doctor Doom, not as Victor Von Doom. As has been mentioned, it could be Downey is a Tony Stark variant who becomes Doom, or they are adapting the story where they swapped bodies.

    It probably won't.
     
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  15. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Body swap Tony and Victor storyline where Tony as Victor ended up getting Vic's body disintegrated so now Victor is stuck as Tony could be a trip
     
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  16. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    So, if they body swap, you’d have RDJ appearing as Tony, but acting all serious Victor, and then whoever is cast as Victor appearing as Victor, but acting all quippy Tony?

    im not sure that’s the best.
     
  17. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I know it wouldn’t fit hiding RDJ given the cost involved and what appeals about him- but what if he’s p-capping a digital Doom that doesn’t look like Tony?
     
  18. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Audiences understand body swap stories. Hell, we laughed at Lex Luthor and the Flash body swapping in JLU.



     
  19. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I’d Face/Off with you in a heartbeat
     
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  20. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    Nobody suggested they don’t. It doesn’t make this particular one not a bad idea.
     
  21. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    Do you like peaches?
     
  22. nilzo antonio

    nilzo antonio Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  23. rocknroll41

    rocknroll41 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Anyone else annoyed that 199999 is now 616? I preferred it when 616 was just the main comics. Plus, if mysterio was a fraud, how did he predict correctly that the mcu earth was 616?
     
  24. Master_Lok

    Master_Lok Force Ghost star 6

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    That’s the very sad reality of it. If I was RDJ or the Russos, I’d pay the artists and writers from my salary then. They all should. It’s the least they can do.

    A bit of good will to light a fire under Marvel Studios cans.
     
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  25. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He was aware of the Multiverse, he just lied about being from it.
     
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