Lit A/V Clone Wars Continuity Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

That actually brings up another interesting point--for all the timeline problems of the Clone Wars themselves, the amount of stuff that's purported to happen in the immediate wake of TPM is kind of nuts. Plagueis dies, Sifo-Dyas orders the army, dies, Dooku quits/is recruited by Sidious, recruits Jango to make the army...I like to think of the gap between TPM and AotC as being more like 10.5 years, actually (which may be official, even? I know Anakin goes from 9 to 20, but I dunno how precisely they've nailed that down).

 

Honestly. It seemed like the clear implication in AotC was that Dooku killed Sifo-Dyas and used his identity to order the clones. I know Obi-Wan seemed a bit unsure as to how long ago exactly Sifo-Dyas died, but that's because he just heard some strange new information that seemed to conflict with his initial impression. No normal person would come away from the movie thinking the Jedi actually weren't sure when Sifo-Dyas was killed, and that it wasn't before the clones were ordered.

 

Obi-Wan never says anything of the sort. He says "Master Sifo-Dias died almost ten years ago".

That's because this show is Lucas's damage control. Why do you think people got interested in SW again because of it? The Prequels on their own almost killed SW.

 

You know how badly it confused me as a kid? When Obi-Wan asks Lama-Su "When my master contacted your blah blah blah." I took him literally and assumed they were actually talking about something Qui-Gon did before they went to Naboo ("almost ten years ago" fit the timeline between films in my primitive brain), and that he had been renamed Sifo-Dyas for some reason.

I spent much of the time between the movies very, very confused about how these things could be, and it's actually one of the main catalysts that led to the discovery of Wookieepedia and this very board, in fact as I searched for answers.

 

So AOTC doomed and failed you in more then one way?

 

More info on the bonus missions http://www.starwars7news.com/2014/02/what-to-expect-from-final-season-of.html

 

The script doesn't contradict the first one at all, as SD probably was still conned ("Oh, this is only a list of orders for balance of power, it will hopefully never be used, my friend."), and it's not clear at all how much the Kaminoines are or are not aware of the Sith's intentions. They merely know of Order 66 as a contingency plan they were ordered to keep secret. That's as far as specifics go.

The brainwashing is a change, though, and I know that will come as a shock/disappointment to some.

Edit: And OH THANK GOD, KORRIBAN!

I wonder if the ep before it really will bring us to Tython, or somewhere new?

 

Well, that's actually the Occam's Razor explanation. I thought it was a mistake when the EU ignored it in favor of making some random Jedi order the clones because secret visions and then he was killed and Palpatine just conveniently took over his order because we had to make the whole plot insanely complicated for no reason.

Lucas is just terrible at connecting the PT films together. Way too much making-it-up-as-he-goes-along. The OT hung together perfectly despite being written and directed by a variety of people alongside Lucas. Let Lucas write and direct the entire PT himself, and we need EU and TV series to understand it.

 

Ha! Korriban

 

"Yes, Master. They say a Master Sifo-Dyas placed the order for a clone army at the request of the Senate almost ten years ago. I was under the impression he was killed before that."

The prequels almost killed Star Wars? That's why all three were among the top-grossing movies of all time?

 

Wait, so was "Moriband" just a translation problem all along?

 

I wonder how the blogger that was celebrating Morriband feels about this.

Edit: probably a transcription error. I'm really glad I got upset about it though.

 

Well, it's really just this one thing. And it's not like the movies are incomprehensible on their own. Barriss_Coffee actually just changed my mind. I used to think the Sifo-Dyas thing was a really glaring loose end, but looking at it from the perspective of a new viewer I think I agree that it's actually pretty straightforward. The actual explanation may be unnecessarily convoluted, but the movies make sense on their own, so it doesn't matter. Like it doesn't matter if Darth Maul "actually" comes back to life during the Clone Wars, you can watch the movies believing he's dead and it hangs together fine.

So what you're saying is Moriband has been retconned into Korriban??? LUUUUUUCAS! FILOOOOOOONI!!!!!

 

I was always confused how Palpatine knew how to use the Force.

 

He used Google.

And typed in "How to use the F" before the drop-down predictor popped up showing that millions of people had already searched for the same thing.

 

Google didn't exist then!

 

Google has always existed. In fact, it's a Celestial construct. Do you think any mortal being could design something with more than a rudimentary level of technical complexity?

 

Good to know that it's Korriban

 

Not only are the plot summaries in that article are the same translated from German ones we've seen before, their source is Wikipedia.

 

Prediction:

Korriban is portrayed as orbiting two suns instead of one. EU is destroyed all over again. Dave Filoni ascends the Iron Throne.

 

Woo!

The Sifo-Dyas episode and the Qui-Gon/Yoda episodes are written by Christian Taylor, whom wrote the Mortis trilogy.

 

Im curious about that arc, particularly "the heart of the galaxy" and "the origins of the Force".

 

Everyone knows the Force originated on Andowyne.

(The episode is probably just about the origins of the Jedi on Tython.)

Mortis owns Krayt dragon bones.

 

Apparently not everyone is in the know