Amph Come with me if you want to live: The Terminator Thread

Yeah. that was the biggest problem of the movie. John Connor deserves far much better as the great hero of the franchise.

 

Don't know if this has already been posted earlier in the thread, but it put a smile on my face:

 

I think I did, but it's always a hoot to see again.

 

Was scrolling through the Terminator: Genisys FB page (sometimes when I'm bored I dig through movie FB pages that been updated sporadically since the release) and here's probably one of the better looks at the specs of the "T-3000". Which I literally did not know that was the moniker for it until right now, I just thought of it as John Connor Terminator and or Skynet. (Or the wayI see it he's an Alternate Universe Skynet who basically bombs into the original T1 timeline which is where the entire flick comes from)



I will say, I think the Connor twist is one of the better things the movie does in the 2nd half (which isn't as jumping as the 1st half) and, it's an easy callback, but I kind of love how twisted it is when Sarah is unloading explosions on "John" and he pulls the classic "I can't be reasoned with, I can't be bargained with" speech (which Jason Clarke sells rather effectively)

 

Random, but whatever happened to Darth Ignant?

 

i really want them to make another terminator that is actually a good movie

 

You want a good movie? That's out there.

 

Fascinating.

 

The intention was that "Rise Of The Machines" and "Salvation" were supposed to form a duology, way before they were ever actually made. One movie would show how it happens and then the other would be the future war. When you watch the final films, there is some carry over of what was intended. "Salvation" makes references to "Rise Of The Machines", even if the direction of those stories weren't entirely what was intended.

 

I remember when the movie came out, two videogames were released simultaneously. One was the events of the movie, while the other was in the future. I don't remember whether the future game had a campaign or if it was just online multiplayer, but if the tie-in merchandise already focused on the future war, that seems to indicate that they already had a sequel in mind set in the future.

 

I think the series has run its course. They tried a future war film, and it failed. They tried rebooting/bringing Arnie back, and that failed even harder. Let the rights revert back to Cameron.

 

It should have ended with T2.

But at least the 4th movie brought us this

 

I just want a future war movie that takes place in the exact same environment and the same tone as was depicted in the first two films (which Salvation utterly failed to do). Humanity is on the brink of extinction, it's too dangerous to move around in daylight, HKs everywhere...seriously, those Reese flashbacks are still the scariest post-apocalyptic world that's ever been done in sci-fi.

 

Would Cameron do anything with Terminator once he gets the rights? I think that's sort of fated to happen because Paramount doesn't seem to want to do anything with it. But Paramount just put up the cash, I think the company that owns it is still Megan Ellison's company. Although the rights might be a bit twisted at this point because the rights Cameron has would be for the 1st film and maybe not the 2nd, etc.

I keep cracking jokes about Avatar Vs Terminator come Avatar 5 but, dangit, if he has the rights back in about 2 years, do something with it.

 

I don't think he'd do anything. He's never made an effort to get involved in doing more films, nor with the television series. The most he's ever done is be a creative consultant and watched the films, or at least read the script ahead of time.

 

I think it's a bit of both.

 

Maybe it's just me. But if this series were to continue, isn't it time to move past Sarah, John, Reese and Arnold Terminator. Just look at Genesys.

 

Well, since all of the movies except Salvation have been in the present, they never could be about anyone else, because nobody else but them know what's gonna happen. And since the war was postponed yet again at the end of Genisys, that's still the case. It can only be about anyone else if it's set in the future, and to its credit, half of Salvation is about Marcus Wright.

 

Why are they still making these? Should have stopped at T2. Everything beyond T2 has been a complete dud.

 

Yes I think the franchise has run its course. Back in 84 when T1 was released ( man I feel old! ) Nuclear war was very real & A.I., drones & self driving weapons still seemed impossible. Now we have all that & the military is just over a decade away from real bipedal robot warriors. Probably by 2030. Nuclear war is now close to impossible.

I say one last movie. Maybe SKYNET sends back a few infiltrators and they take over a key business. Overthrow some third world nation & move up from there.

Incorporate some modern geopolitical stuff in the next film.

 

Yeah. The themes and allegories for T1 and T2 were good for their time.

I can understand them wanting to have a T3 with older John, because you know, trilogy, but they ended it with the war back on target.


I agree, they need more allegories to current political climate to make it relevant agin.

Always this series will continue to go downward.