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TCW Episode CW Grade the Episode: S05E10: Secret Weapons

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by Seerow, Dec 5, 2012.

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How would you grade this episode?

  1. 10/10

    11.6%
  2. 9/10

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. 8/10

    2.3%
  4. 7/10

    16.3%
  5. 6/10

    7.0%
  6. 5/10

    23.3%
  7. 4/10

    4.7%
  8. 3/10

    9.3%
  9. 2/10

    7.0%
  10. 1/10

    18.6%
  1. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Those of you who have been around a while know the drill, for those of you new to LACWAC during a regular season run, here's the scoop:

    Each Tuesday or Wednesday in the week after a given episode airs, we post a poll thread where you rate the episode from 1/10 to 10/10.

    Please include your rating in your post, and feel free to give a BRIEF reason why it earned that rating, but remember, we've already got a thread devoted to full discussion of the episode.

    Poll results are available by clicking on the number of votes next to each score.
     
  2. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Sep 3, 2012
    Like always 10/10

    This episode was fun and entertaining
     
  3. KenobiSkywalker

    KenobiSkywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    Sep 3, 2012
    I'm giving this one a 5/10. Not the worst of them, but I found it hard to be interested in it. A bit of a let down compared to YJ.
     
  4. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Force Ghost star 6

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    Jan 5, 2011
    1/10

    I wasn't amused in the slightest.
     
  5. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Soliloquist of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I can't give this anything higher than a 5, so I'll go with that. This episode had some potential for cool infiltration stuff, but they focused too much on "kiddie" elements, and I did not find that very endearing coming from the show that gave us Umbara and, well, Young Jedi.

    Still, it was fairly entertaining, looked cool, and giant laser thing.
     
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  6. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    7/10. On the surface I liked the episode. I liked WAC and thought he was adorable. He actually reminds me of myself. I also like Gascon with his massive inferiority complex. I'm ashamed admit I laughed alot at this episode. Either because I like Looney Tunes or because it was so bad it was good. This made my inner 8 year old happy. It filled my cup for campy awesomeness. But I gotta be real. Its totally wrecked the tone of the series being the least dark and serious episode ever. The type of humor used is outdated or trying to hard to emulate crackbaby cartoons. Then the plot is basically about sneaking aboard a spaceship to steal a flashdrive. That's seriously weak. We'll find out if my lame filter can hold up for three more of these.
     
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  7. Dark Lord Tarkas

    Dark Lord Tarkas Jedi Master star 5

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    Watched this for the second time last night, and now there's no doubt that this has to be my third 1/10 of the entire series.

    The humor wasn't humorous, and the opportunity cost was tragic. Pure waste of an episode.

    The only thing I enjoyed was the Parwan acting like a mad scientist, but I was so pissed about the blue logo that that didn't really matter.

    The red logo in Brothers and Revenge fit so perfectly because of the special occasion and how fitting the color was for it. This is neither a special occasion, nor does the color have any significance in relation to the episode. Just leave it yellow like the Star Wars logo.
     
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  8. QuangoFett

    QuangoFett Jedi Master star 4

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    Jun 11, 2011
    3/10

    WAC was far from the worst part of this episode.

    I'll leave it at that.
     
  9. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    7/10. I enjoyed it (one viewing only, so far) - the humor may wear thin on a second viewing but the 1st time - but then, I have a quirky sense of humor (usually dry, like Obi-Wan's quips). Sure, there were some aspects that kept it from a 10 but I more or less expected a bum episode and got a light-hearted romp that didn't advance the story any, shed any insight into events or characters, or delve into complexity. It was just a kick off the shoes, shut off the brain and enjoy with a side of popcorn.
     
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  10. EECHUUTA

    EECHUUTA Jedi Master star 4

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    I gave a 10/10. I laughed the both times I saw it (I don't normally feel a desire to watch an episode a second time) and to me it was a good episode. Plus it had a Super T, which are fast becoming my favorite droids of the series. :D
     
  11. Dark Lord Tarkas

    Dark Lord Tarkas Jedi Master star 5

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    I don't like their beaks.
     
  12. AkashKedavra_93

    AkashKedavra_93 Moderator Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    +Digging the blue logo​
    +Aayla, Tera, Jor, Neyo​
    +Nice nod to the original trilogy with the landing sequence​
    +Super Tactical Droid had a good voice​
    +Superb animation as always​
    +Nice design of the Separatist dreadnaught​
    +The encription module​
    +R2 not leaving BZ behind​
    +Cool CIS shuttle design​
    +Military analyst joke?​

    -Parwan was annoying​
    -WAC's introduction wasn't...appealing shall we say?​
    -I'm still split on Colonel Gascon​
    -Super tactical droids are utterly useless​
    -Corporal/Captain/Colonel? WTF?​
    -The opening after the Jedi scene was utterly useless​
    -Did they miss the droid on the ground, fried? Yeah, yeah, just like that, step right over a REPUBLIC DROID lying on the ground...​
    -So yeah, Super Tactical Droids are called Super, why?​
    -We're just going to leave, like that, just, yep, with no fights or harrowing escapes...no, we're just going to leave...​

    [​IMG]

    "I am not amused..."

    Boy you sure said it Palps, right with you on that one​

    I expected much more from Brent Friedman. Hopefully next week brings it back at a much stronger pace. Gregor, I am waiting for you...2013...​

    3/10, my first major disappointment with Season 5​
     
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  13. Dark Lord Tarkas

    Dark Lord Tarkas Jedi Master star 5

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    Oh yeah, forgot to mention how horribly dumb that ending was. The colonel has to hide in order for them to get past a small handful of battle droids...but then proudly rides out in the open with his chest puffed out past legions upon legions in the hangar and none of them notice. :oops:
     
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  14. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Well, Star Wars IS space fantasy (and opera), not hard sci fi.
     
  15. Dark Lord Tarkas

    Dark Lord Tarkas Jedi Master star 5

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    But there's not even internal consistency there within the span of one minute. If he can get past legions and legions of them without them taking notice, there's no reason why he should have to hide to get past a small handful of them. And both times it was at very close proximity, so no difference there.
     
  16. QuangoFett

    QuangoFett Jedi Master star 4

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    My suspension of disbelief was broken with that scene, quite frankly. It was one of the episode's major failings.

    It's established at the beginning of the segment on the ship that the battle droids see the astromechs (and WAC) as potential enemies, though not necessarily major threats. They have to notice that these captives failed to show up for interrogation and that the two B1s sent to escort them simply dropped off the radar. The Super T himself gets involved in a skirmish with these droids as they try to fiddle around with the ship's highly sensitive and strategically critical communications facility. However, this group of droids is allowed to roam around freely after that, with a tiny organic wearing a Republic/Imperial roundel on his uniform clinging onto the head of U9-C4. As Tarkas said, none of the droids in the hangar (not even the Vultures, who you'd expect to have better vision than the B1s') notice this symbol:

    [​IMG]

    and suspect that something is afoot.

    The episode would have been much better off with the arrest scenes taken out. If the whole point of using droids was to avoid suspicion, that should have actually been shown consistently. Perhaps WAC could have blagged his way out of the shuttle being set on a collision course with the destroyer, thus allowing the team to roam the ship freely after that. That might have been more amusing to see than the team's overpowering of their escorts, and it would have actually made sense as a conveyor of a "brains vs. brawn" message.
     
  17. Orrelios

    Orrelios Jedi Master star 4

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    I think it was an okay episode; I admit I like Colonel Gascon even though he is quite a cartoony character and the Parwan doctor Gubacher was pretty entertaining in his single scene. I was not a big fan of WAC's cocky and arrogant attitude, but it was nice that he seemingly calmed down towards the end. The whole droid mission plot was pretty fun in it's simplicity and I really enjoyed the zero gravity struggle in the enclosed area of the module room which was probably the highlight to me.

    This could pretty easily have been a standalone episode but it will be interesting to see where they will take the story from here. 7/10
     
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  18. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Jun 29, 2003
    Basically agree with most people here. It was sort of dull, but I didn't despise it or anything. I guess it served its purpose as an introduction to the characters and established their mutual camaraderie. I thought WAC was a little too silly, and the problems the characters ran into had rather straight-forward solutions.

    It wasn't poison tea or droid-spa bad, but it was sort of meh. 5/10.
     
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  19. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Just would like to add this would have been a better stand alone episode, IMO.
     
  20. tekkamansoul

    tekkamansoul Jedi Knight star 1

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    Oct 31, 2012
    4/10. I hated it, but it doesn't deserve any less than that, if nothing else because it's the Star Wars universe...
    But it isn't Star Wars in the slightest. Overdone cartoon tropes, jokes, gags and characters that are more at home in Loony Tunes than a sci-fi series that includes beheadings and political intrigue left and right.

    Here's to hoping it gets better.
     
  21. DavidIX

    DavidIX Jedi Knight star 1

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    I'm tempted to report anyone that is giving this episode a 10 for having an extremely horrible taste..But maybe a referral to a therapist might be a better idea...Pm me for contact information.
     
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  22. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    [face_rofl]

    Not that I agree with the post - but it's DARN funny.
     
  23. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Its subjectivity, bros.
     
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  24. Senator Kelberry

    Senator Kelberry Jedi Master star 4

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    Mar 22, 2010
    5/10 I'm afraid.

    it was an ok episode. Some of the scenes seemed kinda awkward, and it just wasn't as entertaining as I thought it could have been.
     
  25. rumblewagon

    rumblewagon Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sep 24, 2004
    -1 for wacky WAC-47
    -1.5 for overly simplistic plotline
    -1 for making astro-mechs (except R2-D2) look silly.
    -1 for zero logic in how the team flew away from the droid fleet so easily.
    5.5/10 rounded to 6/10.