ST Daisy Ridley (Rey) in Episode VII

Luke is definitely a grey Jedi. :3

 

I suppose this is old news but I only just learned that Daisy is related to Private Godfrey from Dad's Army !

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There is no dark, no light, there is just The Force!

 

can you embed tweets?

 

New trading card for Rey:

 

I'm taking this from another forum I visit. Thought it interesting. (i.e., Rey is a Palpatine)

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"Oh and one thing I noticed. Rey's fighting style. Her "stabbing" moves vs Ren. Go back and watch Palpatine use a Lightsaber and see the similarities. Probably coincidental more than anything."

"I only just heard this theory the other day and started thinking about connections. Then it hit me. Think about the parallels between these two scenes and what is going through Luke's mind in TFA."

 

"Rey Palpatine" sounds pretty cool

I do wonder if Rey's accent comes from whoever she spent her first five years with or from spending most of her life dealing with Unkar Plutt on Jakku...

 

The Rey wax figure seems so realistic. She will be displayed at the Madame Tussaud's in London along with Bb-8 beginning August and then later in Berlin.

 

I saw the Rey-branded cereal at a store this past weekend.



https://mobile.twitter.com/GeneralMills/status/727904741976584192

 

At the the end of the day, she beat Kylo Ren both mentally and physically to the point where she could've killed him if the planet didn't split between them. Mentally and physically, she dominated him. The way I see it, there's two broad options for Rey and the Force: either she's never used the Force before in her entire life and yet she was able to not only resist the mental assault of Kylo but also turn it against him OR she hasn't actively used the Force in over a decade and she still managed to beat a man who meditates on and uses the Force in some capacity every day of his life for decades.

How is Kylo going to be a threatening villain after losing to the protagonist TWICE in the first movie? People say that Kylo will come back stronger in the second movie and thus threaten Rey more than he did the first time. Well, given how Rey beat him when she was untrained, what happens after she gets trained? Kylo and (to a larger extent) Snoke, are supposed to be the mountains that Rey has to surpass in order to be the hero but she's already thrashed one of them in the first movie and Snoke already respects Rey in a way that Sidious never did for Luke. I just don't see this particular aspect working as a satisfying story, imagine if Luke had beaten Vader so handily in ANH? Would the same level of tension and dread be there in ESB when Vader toys with Luke? Would the iconic line "The Force is strong with you young Skywalker, but you are not a Jedi yet." have nearly as much weight? I feel like people got so caught up in the "girl power" aspect of Rey beating Kylo that they haven't really stopped to think about what type of villain Kylo has now become.

 

Yeah, you're right. The same thing happened with the original trilogy, I presume. I saw ANH in which there's this imposing bad guy Darth Vader, but by the end of the film he has been put in his place by some old guy called Tarkin, only beat the old man Kenobi when Kenobi stopped trying, and then had his fighter shot out if the sky by a smuggler.
I never bothered with Empire Strikes Back because for me there was no way that Darth Vader could be taken seriously as a villain after that.

 

It's because this is Abrams's and Kasdan's intention: Kylo is intentionally a villain in progress. Abrams called him the anti-Luke. Luke started out wanting to follow Anakin's example, but being a bit immature and whiny about it. Kylo, ironically, is doing the same, in wanting to emulate Anakin's dark side example. Rey's awakening and Kylo's wound leveled the field for their fight, but in an even fight Kylo would seem to be stronger than Rey (see: their encounter on Takodana), and that's even without proper dark side training.

Also, suggesting that fans are happy with the outcome of Rey and Kylo's duel because we're blinded by "girl power" is itself belittling. Why can't it be that people you disagree with like something for their own legitimate reasons. Why can't we just be cheering for the hero winning? Why does it have to be a gender thing?

I think this - trotting out gender politics to explain Rey/TFA/ST has such massive popularity - is such a tiresome thing to do. If dissenters want engagement, debate, discussion, you first need to show that you respect that others have come to their own reasoned, valid reasons for liking this film.

 

Imagine the Twitter snark that would be directed at Vader's "spinning TIE fighter" moment after Han shoots him. What a weak villain!

 

"How are we expected to take a villain seriously in the next movie if their final line of this movie is stupidly yelling What!!!??"

 

That is the annoying thing, essentially. If you've got no hang ups about gender and you've discerned certain meanings or formed impressions solely and sponteaneously on their own terms, without regard for supposed political concerns, what you are doing is somehow aplogising for all the issues that never spontaneously concerned you in the first place.

 

Apologies, but I didn't mean to belittle anyone. I was simply engaging in fun speculation about what some comments in the fandom twitterverse might be like if ANH was released today. But I'll refrain from that sort of thing if it's perceived as insulting.

 

"Don't be afraid - I feel it too" Kylo to Rey...but what is he referring to? Anyone?

 

the force.

 

Without belittling anyone, I think the kind of sentiment that is being discussed here cannot be described as wating and seeing. I think that makes it fair comment to challenge any premature conclusions. Particularly when they perhaps represent a double standard. Worry is not a productive impulse.

 

If my post displayed a dismissive attitude to anyone with issues , it's not intentional. I think the sentiments that are being aped in some of these posts show that they are not meant to dismiss the issues that many may have. I think that many of the issues do surround the willingness to defer gratification (with respect to the continually evolving concept of the force and its relationship with individiuals and institutions that are influenced by it, and attempt to influence it). The sentiments that are being aped, I think, don't even consider deferred gratification as a valid attitude for the movies to expect from the audience.

 

Taken from Wikipedia, as an example of how it is very reasonable for Rey to tap into the Force without having formal training.

David Bowie, singer, musician, multi-instrumentalist, actor, and painter, has never trained in any of the mentioned fields and only received a few singing lessons in the 1960s (as reported by his former manager, Ken Pitt). As a teenager he took some lessons on saxophone by Ronnie Ross. All other instruments (including piano, keyboards/synths, electric/acoustic guitar, harmonica, koto, limited bass, and percussion), he taught himself. His paintings and sculptures were created (and exhibited) without any formal art school training. He took a few lessons in movement and dance with the Lindsey Kemps Dance company but trained himself in mime.