ST Dark Side of the Force in EP VII...Redemption???

I had the exact same idea/thought/possibility, but never wrote it down.

 

I don't know if a living redemption from the Dark Side would be one swift act like Anakin's. Part of what redeemed him was his willingness to sacrifice his life. I think if it was possible, it would be more like a struggle with constant temptation, like the Star Wars equivalent of "The Woodsman" without the creepy pedophile undertones. It would not be a character who is readily accepted in society, and probably be heavily monitored by society's gatekeepers for the rest of his or her life.

 

I thought about the drug addict side but it always seemed such a small price to pay for so much power. I can see the parallels and don't entirely disagree.

If the villain is a Skywalker / Solo would you prefer a redemption or an Isolation type containment or just death. having to kill your Son Daughter could be quite the moment on screen.

 

I really like this analogy. I work with addicts and see this all the time. Even those who've been clean for years always have that temptation.

 

I think this is happening with Boyega and Driver. The fromer starts as an imperial and ends up as a Rebel, and the contrary for the latter.

 

i disagree. yes it should not be every other sith getting redeemed, it needs to be fairly rare, but i would like to see Luke redeem more during his time, so he could be considered the redeemer.

 

Yes, but the Saga needs to be as diverse as possible./

We've had a redemption story.

 

So? We've also had plenty of villains who died evil. Maul, Dooku, Palpatine...don't see the big deal.

 

Yes, as I said earlier - maybe there is a third option. However, a villain finding salvation is something special. Twice in the franchise is repetitive - a villain dying evil is the way things are. It is isn't the same.

 

I disagree that finding salvation should be "something special." It should always be an option...just not one that everybody takes, obviously. Why is it so difficult to believe that two villains would decide that they don't want to continue following the dark side?

 

Because the story should be creative and inventive. And as diverse as possible. And redemption is special.

 

Well, I don't think the main villain will be redeemed. But maybe the villain in VII will be.

 

What makes you think there is a main villain and a villain in Episode VII?

EDIT: Just got the house to myself - time to overdose on horror movies on Netflix

 

Just speculation.

 

It depends on the bond the dark side user has with the redeemer. Would Vader have turned back to the light if it was anybody other than Luke/Leia? After a lifetime of killing and UNLIMITED POWAAAAA? Probably not.

 

How about fundamental benefits to using the Dark Side?

Palpatine actually makes a rather interesting point to Anakin about the Force. He basically said one should have a larger view of the Force, not the narrow, dogmatic ways of the Jedi.

But I agree with no more redemption stories.

 

i think redemption should be a theme in Star Wars, not a one time event. Not to be contrived, but it does need to happen now and then. To me this is central to Star Wars. Now i am not suggesting that major novels, or series should be devoted to a redemptive storyline, no just an occasional redemption in characters as a side note

 

What about a redemption story that fails?

 

Yes, but it shouldn't happen in this new trilogy - right after the greatest redemption story.

I suggested such earlier - someone tries to bring the villain back to the light or the villain has a crisis of conscience but it all goes wrong and makes him worse.

 

As long as it's not Luke

 

I am not so sure that Luke is bad, but if he is, expect that he is way gone... I do not think we'll see a rehash of Anakin's life as we have seen that already...

 

The only alternative is to have the villain survive.

 

We've already had a trilogy that that had that

 

Evil the Cat?