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Saga Darth Sidious: Ending the Mask vs Deformity Argument.

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Darth Formidious, Mar 17, 2017.

  1. Alexrd

    Alexrd Force Ghost star 5

    Jul 7, 2009
    That's Stover's interpretation. As stated in the film script, which comes directly from Lucas himself:

    The tremendous effort needed to generate the sustained lightning has transformed Palpatine's face into that of Darth Sidious.
  2. Pacified_llama

    Pacified_llama Jedi Padawan star 2

    Sep 15, 2017
    The quote from Stover:

    Palpatine examined the damage to his face in a broad expanse of wall mirror. Anakin couldn't tell if his
    expression might be revulsion, or if this were merely the new shape of his features. Palpatine lifted one
    tentative hand to the misshapen horror that he now saw in the mirror, then simply shrugged.

    "And so the mask becomes the man," he sighed with a hint of philosophical melancholy. "I shall miss the
    face of Palpatine, I think; but for our purpose, the face of Sidious will serve. Yes, it will serve."

    Stover's interpretation is rather vague, and actually hybridizes both arguments - Sidious' transformation here is really one which metaphorically merges both Palpatine (which was always a persona) and the true being of Sidious. The deformity just so happens to reveal his true character - not revealing a mask, but showing him as an accurate reflection of true evil he is.
  3. dblaney1

    dblaney1 Jedi Youngling

    Jun 27, 2017
    This may have been posted already but he was already deformed in the Canon Darth Maul comic that takes place before the Phantom Menace.
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  4. Darth Caliban

    Darth Caliban Jedi Knight star 4

    Aug 17, 2015
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  5. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

    Nov 12, 2012
    The Rebels finale was interesting because was it a hologram trick (as the flickering between kindly Palpatine and corrupted Sidious seemed to imply) or could he change it at will, raise and drop the mask. I personally buy it, as a lot of recent materiel seems to suggest, he raises and drops it. The hologram was just overcompensating / correcting. Like what is more plausible, that he has a tricked out hologram that can make him look like Grandpa Palpy or he's doing it on his own?
  6. Alexrd

    Alexrd Force Ghost star 5

    Jul 7, 2009
    That sort of artistic license has always existed in the comics and other illustrations. It establishes nothing new.

    At the end of the day, the dark side corrupts and deforms. His intensive and extensive use of it during the fight against Mace, where he blasts him continuously with lightning, was what caused the deformation of his face and body.
  7. Darth Caliban

    Darth Caliban Jedi Knight star 4

    Aug 17, 2015
    Maybe it was a hologram all the time we've seen him before ROTS. Palpy just activated a special effect, deactivated the hologram and faked being weakened during the fight with Mace to manipulate Anakin.

    If so, the deformations may have happened way earlier because of him using the dark side for a long time.
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  8. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 8

    Sep 2, 2012
    The mask theory is basically a Force/Biology version of this.

    With the "intense effort" revealing the deformations rather than causing them.

    DARTH_BELO Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Nov 25, 2003
    I just figured seeing non-deformed palpatine was a hologram trick. Then it started glitching back and forth, eventually shutting off completely, as a result of Ezra's actions in that room. Seems perfectly plausible to me.

    Although I do like the idea that he could've switched himself back and forth. I just feel that kind of idea would be inconsistent with everywhere else we see him onscreen-as he didn't do that masking effect in any other Rebels episodes or the films. Everywhere else he always just appeared deformed-no matter who he was addressing. Even the senate.
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