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PT Did Darth Maul intend to rejoin Sidious?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Dark Ferus, Sep 23, 2016.

  1. Dark Ferus

    Dark Ferus Chosen One star 8

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    Note- I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this.

    As we see in season 5 of the Clone wars, as soon as Darth Sidious entered Maul's throne room, maul bows and declares his loyalty (unsuccessfully) to Sidious. Previously, he had vowed to destroy the Sith "pretenders" (though he could have only meant Dooku) and was offended that Sidious had continued his plans without Maul. Maul considered himself the master at that point, having Savage Opress as his apprentice. Because of these reasons, it was unclear whether Maul was truly still loyal to Sidious on Mandalore or just pretending.
     
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  2. Torib

    Torib Jedi Master star 2

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    I think if he had truly been loyal to the Emperor he would have tried to contact him after being "rescued" by Savage rather than get involved in his own scheme on Mandalore. But maybe his plan was to remove Dooku first and then reveal himself to Sidious. That would put him in a stronger position, I suppose.
     
  3. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    I think Maul knew he was on his own at that point. He'd been replaced by Dooku as Sidious's apprentice. If Maul showed up to rejoin Sidious - my guess is he'd of been killed. So what Maul did in reestablishing himself was as much for own protection as much as his own ambition. Maybe if he'd done well enough Sidious would have reconsidered dropping Dooku in favor of Maul. But we know that was never a possibility for what Sidious had planned.
     
  4. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Darth Maul was an horrendously underused character, such a waste. I feel he should've survived until ROTS, with Anakin finally slaying him proceeding a fierce duel which takes place before Sidious.
     
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  5. Seeker Of The Whills

    Seeker Of The Whills Jedi Master star 4

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    That's how I feel about Boba Fett. He did nothing but stand around in the background in TESB, so that the evil George Lucas could sell a billion action figures based on his cool looks alone. Then he sees a miniscule amount of action in RotJ, before dying like a clown. Explain to me why this character is so popular? It's a travesty. /sarcasm
     
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  6. Erkan12

    Erkan12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    He was pretending to be loyal to Sidious in that throne room, if you read Son of Dathomir, you could see his true intentions.

    Also Filoni's view on Maul's situation ;

    http://www.starwars.com/news/fates-...eflects-on-star-wars-rebels-season-two-part-2
     
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  7. ObiWanKnowsMe

    ObiWanKnowsMe Jedi Master star 4

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    no, darth maul was a renegade at the exact moment obi-wan cut him in half. he was absolutely insane when we first see him in the clone wars & sidious never would've taken him back due to his failure on naboo.

    maul even seemed to want revenge on sidious (if i am recalling the clone wars correctly). when sidious walks into the throne room, maul knew that he was about to duel with sidious. he knew the rule of 2 & he knew what sidious had came there for, to finish them off and rid them away. i think maul knelt just because of old times sake. i think maul was sarcastically greeting sidious with respect
     
  8. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    He said "pretender" (singular) and was talking about Dooku.

    And he didn't necessarily intend to join Sidious, but was hoping to play under his radar and get his own power base. When Sidious went to him, he could only pledge his allegiance and pretend he was working for Sidious all along, because he knew he wasn't powerful enough to face him. Of course, Sidious sensed his attempt to deceive him from the get go.
     
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  9. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    When he got his sanity back in Clone Wars, it sounded like he just wanted to carve out his own power base, maybe create his own Sith Order under the radar of Sidious. (The fact that Maul still claimed that he and his brother were Sith Lords made it sound like he thought he had the right to the titles and the others didn't, like how at different points in the Roman Catholic Church's history, there were two papacies operating and claiming to be the legitimate one.)

    By the time of Rebels, Maul seems to be anti-Sith, albeit wanting to operate as a dark side user. So, think he was a dark Jedi by then.
     
  10. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    No, it was a trick especially. Cause he already had an Apprentice.
     
  11. Slicer87

    Slicer87 Jedi Master star 4

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    How can he? He was cut in freaking two and the halves fell down a shaft.
     
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  12. Erkan12

    Erkan12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Did you read the OP ?
     
  13. CT1138

    CT1138 Jedi Master star 4

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    At first, perhaps, but after having gone insane on a garbage planet, I think his interest in Sidious faded when Sidious never sought him out. I think that when Maul surrendered himself to Sidious on Mandalore, and confessed his desire to build a Sith Empire for Sidious, he was lying in a hasty attempt to save his own mechanical bum.