Disable the ignore function

So? I still didn't see anything wrong with his post.

 

Okay, you said that. I was talking to somebody else, though.

 

I had commented on your post also. So in an open forum I should be able to reply to your comments. If you only want to talk to one person, perhaps you should PM them.

 

Lmao, wow. I'm sorry, but what did you just say about minecraft? Ignored.



lol jk

 

Okay...

 

Please, let's get back to behaving like adults or I'll lock this thread up.

 

A solution to the distress caused by being ignored is to make the ignorer's posts invisible to the ignored. I wouldn't think it's suitable here though... I think our system is best; the ignored still get to get upset with their oblivious rivals, still get to chip in to discussions that would otherwise be off limits.

It might be useful for mods to be able to force certain users to ignore each other, do you have that capability?

 

Ha, very nice!

Jesus Christ, really? You should recluse yourself from this discussion.

 

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

-Arnold J. Rimmer

 

Seriously.

 

Well, this thread is a mess.

Anyway, "ignore" features tend to be for places without a strong moderator presence, because spammers and trolls run rampant. That's not the case for the JC. It shouldn't be used just for annoying people or whatever. This is a public messageboard, not a personal Facebook or Tumblr feed; there are plenty of other platforms to use if you only want to converse with people you like. If abolishing it gets this sort of reaction, though, I don't have much hope that it will happen.

 

I appreciated the feature when I was looking at the JCC page and didn't have to be reminded of a certain foreskin so often.

When I read a thread and get to the show ignored button I hit the button and read what was hidden. I do think it's ridiculous to take part in a conversation and ignore posts in that conversation.

It would be nice if I could put certain threads on ignore instead of users.

 

You were doing it wrong then. It's completely achievable.

You started out with a well thought out post, and have devolved to baiting. Was that necessary?

Even though a thicker skin is maybe what you need?
I'm being serious here. You join a community, and with that is the good (majority), and bad.
(Serious but also tongue in cheek time) I mean, back in mid-shark-jump for the EU, you had this army of idiotic, annoying, rabid fans who had devoted most of their saturday nights to studying reactor outputs and sacrificing virgins to the dark lord Saxton. Their dark lord had proclaimed that the space opera of Star Wars be replaced with hard sci-fi, and his minions obeyed. Despite these people being evil, annoying, stupid, annoying, stupid and evil we survived the Saxtonite infestation without the ignore function. (/serious but also tongue in cheek time).
There are users that will annoy you. Users who will enrage you. Users who have literally only contributed to a) wasting bandwidth and b) making you stupider for reading their garbage. There are users whose value add is 0, all the time. A number of people annoy me on these boards, and I've put zero on ignore.

This.

This.

This was the point I made earlier. A good moderator is a part of their community. Look at how prolific the JC mods are in their community. They joke, they aren't afraid to argue, they get involved in the spirit of the community. We both know this; I did it when I was a mod, you and Dave and all the other JC mods do it now.
(This is what makes Bazinga'd comment before, that I quoted, baffling and a little telling.)
I think between Even and Iello's comments, I'm still strongly in favour of abolishing it and I think they make a pretty compelling case between them.

 

As much as I like some of Saxton's work, this brought a to my face.

 

Malkie? Is that you?

 

While I concede to the mindset that any action(s) selected that affect these boards should be taken into view as a member of the board, and not guided by ones' personal sentiment nor temperament I do think that sometimes we (mods/admins/techs/posters) have to make decisions for ourselves when it comes to things that impact us. Yes, we do post on a community-driven website, but we are each constituents of said collective, and as a member of the gang I would much rather decide for myself as to if I would interact with certain parties, or not... especially, considering how fortunate we are to even have such an option, as is the case with the ignore function.

A prime example of why I would not think as a board on matters that are of a direct consequence to myself, is simply that those whose opinions are given to the contrary of retaining the ignore feature may have a personal stake in being rid of it... say, perhaps, some people who I could rest my decisions on may not have my best interests at heart, nor I theirs, to be fair. Decisions are always made to some degree based on personal preference, and in that case... I would much rather trust in my own, as each of us are only familiar with what our own remedies_poisons are. Anywho, I am just offering a little more insight into yet another perspective in all this kerfuffle.

You are, of course, 100% correct about mods being multi-faceted, but out of all honesty there are instances whereby mods of a particular forum are not present to 'man their posts', so to speak (which is totally understandable, obiously, as everyone has lives outside of this site. I am just making a point). Such a period, however brief the duration is a period of free reign - to some degree or another - for ne'er-do-wells to strike while the iron is hot. Any such situation - no matter the length of time - is an unnecessary concern that could have been avoided by those who wish to do so with the presence of ignore. Regardless, mods are extremely helpful in most any circumstance... ignore is quite the nifty contingency plan, though.

Aren't Twitter, Facebook and message boards all the same, though? The very definition of a message board is 'an Internet site where people can post and read messages, usually on a specific topic or area of interest.' Correct me if I am wrong, but when viewing a celebrity or friend's Twitter accounts - not to mention, films - are they not specific topics or areas of interest? Does one not post messages on boards? Do I have a point?? I am getting there, do not rush me.

At any rate, why must there be special accommodations made only for those on Twitter_Facebook? I get that they typically have more traffic, and therefore could benefit from extra precautionary measures in the case of one not wanting to interact with another, but honestly... why should such allowances be accrued by only certain online communities? To the best of my knowledge, the Internet as a whole is viewed habitually for its' knack for cyber bullying not its' insight into friendly chit-chat. Such a means as that of hitting ignore when antagonized or otherwise is crucial in the upkeep of morale for some users, I would imagine, and understandably so.

Fact is, we live in the Digital Age ladies and gentlemen. There will always be times - more often than not - that are pretty touch and go in terms of whether or not common courtesy will be upheld. No matter the route decided upon, do take into consideration that not everyone is capable of shouldering the emotional burden associated with insulting comments and disrespectful use of language directed at them... that cannot be downplayed, as it would be a gross oversight to not keep in mind those that reap the benefits of a simple click of a button, of which I am sure there are many more than what appears on the surface of this thread.

With the ignore function, posters have an advantage over any unforeseen headaches that may occasionally sprout up. Such assets are not intended to be leveraged, as in 'Hey, if you want to have the option to click ignore this is not the site for you' or something of that accord. The ignore button is not a privilege... no, no, no 'tis a circumstance born of necessity whence complications arise.

 

I love the reasoning behind this. In the past this place was horrible with trolls running unchecked ...but we survived without the ignore function...therefore all of you should toughen up and become resilient individual like us old timers. That reminds me of my old First Sergeant complaining when the Army started to allow athletic shoes in basic training for the long runs. He would say, "When I was in basic training we ran in our boots. We would have blisters and debilitating shinsplints, but we survived." I don't know about you, but that sounds like it sucked to me.

There appears to be a movement on most websites to allow people to control the content they see. Here we have the ignore button, at deviantArt a person can hide abusive comments from their gallery, at Fanfiction.net (after losing writers due to uncontrolled flaming trolls) they now allow a person to remove any anonymous review, they can also refuse to allow anonymous reviews all together and they can ban certain people from commenting on their threads. Facebook allows people to determine access and the ability to delete comments or posts on their wall. Youtube allows you to disable comments or if enabled you can delete abusive comments or you can ban a particular screen name from commenting on your posts. One site has a thumbs-up/thumbs-down feature and when a commenter gets too many thumbs-downs his/her post is hidden and a person has to hit "view hidden comment" to view. Amazon pre-moderates all posts. Some blogs eliminated the comments feature entirely because of trolls.

It has been shown that users are ruder on websites where everybody else is rude. Why? Because nice people leave the site. They don't want to be survivors of a Saxtonite infestation. They just leave.

It appears that most popular internet sites are moving towards allowing users more control over the content they view. Why does TFN want to go backwards?

 

This is condescending and blinkered. Of course you know best, but how are you qualified to judge how strangers on the internet should change their personality?

Not everyone has a burning emotional need to have the sorts of arguments and confrontational interactions that you personally enjoy. Some just want to relax and enjoy themselves with like-minded people and there's no rule stating that we must interact with people we dislike.

It's just mad to demand that a STAR WARS forum should force its users to interact with the sort of characters you wouldn't choose to socialise with. It's mad to demand that a place dedicated to fun should be made less fun - and it's patronising to justify that by saying it's for the benefit of those who don't want to be insulted or irritated.

It's unreasonable and naive to expect an internet forum to function like a physical human community. We do not come here to live and work, we come here to escape from where we live and work.

 

A small aside: if the ignorehammer is left as it is, I'd be in favor of adding "I just put you in ignore" or "can anyone paste what X is saying for me?" to the list of unacceptable posts, alongside the "+1" and "in before the lock"s.

Thoughts?