ST Episode 7 Plot Detail(?) from BadAss Digest: UPDATED - "the lightsaber". Talk to the hand, hand!

The rumors sound okay expect plageious a dun Han/Leia dying early on.

 

I dont know why anyone would think MVS being Plagueis would be a bad idea. the emporer all those years playing everyone, but of course, the bigger fish Plagueis is really playing even more people and using palps as a pawn. its freakin genius. the opposite though, more for our times would be a fractured enemy that instead of one bad guy is loaded with a bunch of bad guys.

 

I don't think Plagueis, if used, necessarily needs to be depicted as a puppet master for the duration of the previous trilogies. He could have just let things run their course. No need to rush if you've discovered the secret to immortality and everyone thinks you're dead. The galaxy is now in a state of devastation and on the brink of chaos. No Jedi order. No Sith. Blank canvas. Hey look- Luke Skywalker has come out of hiding! ...he has a niece & nephew. Hmm... what to do? What. To. Do?

 

totally agree, it can be done without a rehash of the palpatine thing that was done for 1-6, totally agree but it does make sense that there is always a bigger boss. even in real life. like does anyone really think the president doesnt have a boss? it just keeps going

 

When an employee attempts to murder you, you fire their punk ass.

As other posters have mentioned, in essence Plagueis could have just taken a hiatus as he figured out a way to re-manifest himself in the physical realm, meanwhile allowing Palpatine to do the dirty work of destroying the Jedi order and Old Republic. Perhaps he was manipulating Vader in a way, though. That would make for an interesting back story.

 

I Like that, and the Rule of Two was created to throw off the Jedi! Which seemed to have worked flawlessly.

 

I have one major problem with the idea of Plagueis still being alive (as opposed to a ghost). It would imply that Sidious, knowing full well Plagueis' command of midiclorians and power to cheat death, finally had a perhaps once in a lifetime chance to kill Plagueis in his sleep ... and half-@$$ed it. If you're Sidious, and you have a chance to kill THAT guy, you don't just hold a pillow over his face until he stops squirming and creep away. You go full Van Helsing: lightsaber through the heart, cut off the head, burn the body, and scatter the ashes across 12 star systems.

Can you seriously imagine Palpatine thinking "I wonder if he's really dead. Yeah, he's probably dead. It should be fine"? Because I can't.

 

found this on the cantina
question:
does this mean the Greeham Common is in the hands of the villains?
and Making's answer
Maybe the Rebels set up at the Rebel Base and Luke moves to the castle as he becomes more secluded and private? We do know the base is attacked.
http://thecantina.starwars7news.com...-nyongos-role-in-the-force-awakens.110/page-6

 

Don`t you people think that this thread has been off topic the last 15 pages or so?

 

The way he died in ROTJ, I really don't think Palpatine can look any worse.

 

This is my new prediction of the plot of The Force Awakens...

My prediction is Luke is the Grave Digger. He's gone a bit crazy due to living as a hermit. He spends his time wearing a mask and searching for Imperial artifacts. He's the last Jedi alive. He is found by the two new heroes (Han/Leia's daughter and a rogue Stormtrooper ) and is asked to help them in their battle against the next generation of the Sith - the Inquisitors. They are in league with a few surviving Imperial Generals that escaped capture after the fall of the Empire.

Rumor has spread throughout the new Republic of a new space weapon in development. The New Republic wants Luke back and recruiting a new Jedi order so they can defeat this new threat.

Meanwhile... Han's son is blessed with high levels of the force. Due to his parent's marriage failing he's become a bit of a lost soul, trying to find purpose to his life. He becomes an officer in the Republic army. Following a small battle with some pro-Sith criminals, Han's son is captured or brainwashed or recruited by the Inquisitors. They see huge potential in him. He is turned to the Dark Side. He leads the attack on the new Republic. He wants to destroy Luke and the new Jedi Order.

Luke's slight madness is overcome and he agrees to help the Republic. A new Jedi Order is created although the new Jedi are very inexperienced. They're not full Jedi Masters. The Inquisitors secondary mission is to wipe out the new Jedi Order.

Han Solo dies in the final battle when the Republic army try to destroy the space weapon. He is killed by his son or by orders given by his son. Leia is heart broken and swears to avenge his death even if that means taking the life of her own son. Leia's daughter believes she can still persuade her brother to turn back to the good side of the force.

It is revealed the Inquisitors are led by the 'Arch Sith' - played by Max Von Sydow. He is the most ancient of all Sith. He was in deep sleep or suspended animation many aeons ago but has returned to wreak revenge on the Jedi Order and New Republic.

The Force Awakens refers to the arch Sith's return.

 

Nostradamus is in the house. For the hundredth time this week.

 

Sorry if this was mentioned in the past of this thread. I just reviewed that MSW image again, where the found lightsaber is ignited and it has a blue blade. If this concept art is true, it would indeed be Luke's ESB saber and I have just noticed that this would indeed make sense. Remember that Luke's ESB saber is in truly Anakin's lightsaber and our Sith collector searches for Sith and especially Vader artifacts, so it only makes sense that he would want that particular saber. Who knows, Vader might have reclaimed it after losing Luke on Bespin...

 

The lightsaber has returned!
http://makingstarwars.net/?p=11072


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Well, it sounds more plausible then anything else I have heard lately.

 

It all sounds like a decent plot device to me that they are searching for this artifact, I like it. But I've said before that the key for it to work is how it is found and how it came to be retrieved. If its Anakins/Lukes lightsabre, then we all know it fell down the shaft on cloud city, so right now it seems implausible to me that they went down the shaft to find it.

 

Vader's severed robot hand + lightsaber? Hopefully not falling out of space but simply in the possession of the villagers under attack. It ties into the whole "Vader's remains", "Vader's helmet" idea. They're fighting over pieces of Darth Vader.

The Empire is there to retrieve it, the Rebels there to stop them. Rebel pilot Oscar Isaac is captured and imprisoned. Boyega objects to the burning of the village and is imprisoned as well. They share a cell together and become friends. Daisy (whom I still believe to be a Solo), Han and Chewie come to rescue Oscar from the brig. Daisy breaks both of them out, and they all escape on the Millennium Falcon. The adventure begins.

I like it.

 

Sounds better for sure....

UKS

 

This lightsaber is the Spear of Destiny?

 

The rumors have always been about Luke's lightsaber, either the ANH one or the ROTJ one.

 

My gut feeling:

The first act of EP 7 will feature the reintroduction of the Empire - possibly explained via the text crawl. We see the remnants of the Empire, a tie-fighter squadron, operating close to the new Republic or whatever it's called. They might attack a Republic base or land on a location and attack the locals. John Boyega's character rebels against the Empire, ends up on Tatooine, meets Kira, they find Luke's old lightsaber, they meet Sydow's character. An old Imperial Walker is used as Kira or Sydow's dwelling. Later on, they go in search of Luke.

I think something like that will happen. I reckon the rumors about that are correct. Just my gut feeling.

 

The lightsabre never went away. That was Jason's speculation, no-one else's.

The key plot point that Skywalker 75 told me about is to do with the lightsabre. That's how I knew it was still in the story. That's the key plot point I don't have permission to share alas...

 

If that wasn't the plot it would still make a good story for the new canonized EU.

 

and given the GMA exclusive it seems more likely to be Luke's blue lightsaber.