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Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Kabers, Nov 25, 2013.

  1. Anakin's Daddy

    Anakin's Daddy Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Right! And plus Han only had republic credits anyway. Out on Tatooine they need something more real. ;)
     
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  2. JediMasterSven

    JediMasterSven Jedi Knight star 2

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    Also, due to the Republic becoming the Empire, Republic credits are probably no longer recognized currency.

    And it just occurred to me, if the respective worlds have their own currencies, and he got paid in Alderainian currency, well then that's probably worth even less.

    So, my question is this after seeing The Last Jedi. One of Luke's big heroic moments in the original trilogy was blowing up the Death Star. However, we've seen that Force Ghosts can influence the physical world. So, did Luke really destroy the Death Star by being a great shot, or did Obi-Wan guide the torpedo to it's target?
     
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  3. Alexrd

    Alexrd Force Ghost star 5

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    If Obi-Wan guided the torpedo (he didn't), why would he say "use the Force, Luke"?

    And people are taking the "influence the physical world" way out of context. Force spirits can't interfere on events. Obi-Wan said as much. They can only guide/advise people.
     
  4. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Hand of the Mod Squad and Enforcer of the Realm star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    After TLJ I am not so sure. Snoke manhandlkes Hux and we know what Luke does, including giving Leia the Falcon's Dice
     
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  5. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    There's also that lightning storm Yoda appears to be creating.
     
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  6. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Host, PT Interview Thread star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    Thats some old currency Han is carrying around. :p
     
  7. King Maul

    King Maul Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Besides Maul , Dooku and Vader , who was aware of Palpatine's true idenity and was part of his conspiracy ? I'm guessing Amedda , Tarkin and Sly Moore?
     
  8. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Host, PT Interview Thread star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    Amedda knew sometime after the Phantom Menace. Tarkin was not aware During the PT. A clone trooper by the name of Fives figured out that he planned to kill the Jedi, but he did not know he was a sith.

    Thats all I know of anyway.
     
  9. redxavier

    redxavier Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Something that I've wondered for a while is whether Chewie was intentionally slowing the repair of the Falcon at Echo Base in the hopes of changing Han's mind about leaving. What do you guys think, is this coincidence or is Chewbacca playing an angle?
     
  10. Jedi Knight Fett

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    My bet is Chewie is playing the long game. He wants to help the Rebels, but he wants Han to make that decision for himself.
     
  11. Lt. Hija

    Lt. Hija Jedi Master star 4

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    My bet is that Chewie is not such a good technician (watch how he reassembles Threepio). He probably wants Han to pay back his debt to Jabba ASAP so they can return and help to their friends.
     
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  12. ImpreciseStormtrooper

    ImpreciseStormtrooper Jedi Knight star 3

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    Maybe Force Ghosts are in fact just an anthropomorphic version of that person's own innate Forciness? An ultimate 'phone a friend' in times of confusion.

    So yes. Luke's need to hit the target in ANH triggerred his grandpa power animal to whisper encouragenent in his ear to focus his mind.

    Similarly, it wasn't Yoda who blew up the tree, it was really Luke's subconscious calling down the lightning via the form of Yoda.

    haha. None of that happened. But I enjoyed that thought bubble.
     
  13. Sammie Kool

    Sammie Kool Jedi Youngling

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    Hi, I have a theory. Maybe it can be debunked here.

    In A New Hope, Vader says: "This technological terror you've created in insignificant next to the power of the force". This might have shown that he didnt like the Death Star. Maybe he let the plans go in purpose in Rogue One so the rebels could destroy it.
     
  14. Lt. Hija

    Lt. Hija Jedi Master star 4

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    ^ I think he was merely annoyed having been given the mundane task of retrieving the stolen Death Star plans (he didn't even supervise the Tatooine retrieval operation but delegated it to Commander Praji). But his contempt for the Death Star project was rather obvious, IMHO - and his statement somewhat foreshadowed that it was insignificant next to the power of the Force, as it was the use of Force that was instrumental in destroying the battle station.
     
  15. Sith Lord 2015

    Sith Lord 2015 Jedi Knight star 3

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    I don't think he didn't "like" the DS. But as a Force user he doesn't like to be totally dependent on technology. Also I feel he didn't like the arrogant tone a mere bureaucrat used when praising that technology, especially in Vader's presence. He may have wanted a little more respect for the Emperor's Sith apprentice and the Empire's second-in-command. We don't know that in ANH of course, but now that we know what role Vader played in establishing the Empire from the PT we can guess he dislikes this kind of politician. That guy was actually lecturing Vader, putting him down. Had Tarkin not been there I'm not sure Motti had gotten away with his life.
     
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  16. Snafu55

    Snafu55 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Is the Clone Wars also considered a Civil War like the Galactic Civil War in the OT?
    Because the CIS seceded from the Republic and the Republic said no...
     
  17. Lt. Hija

    Lt. Hija Jedi Master star 4

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    I consider the Clone Wars to be a civil war, some Republic members wanted to be left alone and do their own thing.
    In contrast the "civil war" in the OT has more characteristics of a "revolution" (Solo). Many people want to overthrow the current government and replace it with a different one.

    I wouldn't exclude the possibility that George Lucas deliberately chose "civil war" for the ANH prologue instead of "revolution" because many of these happened in the 1970's IRL.
     
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  18. firesaber

    firesaber Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm with this. The events leading up to the Clone Wars have all the key terms from what we know of a civil war associated with them.

    The Rebellion is just that. Not a "hey, we're going to dip over here and do our own thing".
     
  19. Alexrd

    Alexrd Force Ghost star 5

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    No. They never said 'no' to anyone who left or was leaving. There was an effort to try to negotiate through dialogue in order to prevent them from doing so, which is completely different.

    The Clone Wars had nothing to do with sececcion, but with the Separatists wanting to overwhelm/take over/blackmail the Republic by force.

    "(...) we shall have an army greater than any in the galaxy. The Jedi will be overwhelmed. The Republic will agree to any demands we make." — Count Dooku
     
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  20. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Hand of the Mod Squad and Enforcer of the Realm star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    For an explanation of the differences between the two see:

    http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-civil-war-and-revolution/

    I think the text in bold best explains the difference between the two.
     
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  21. YT-2400

    YT-2400 Jedi Master star 1

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    Okay, in the beginning of TPM, what exactly is Qui-Gon doing to the blast doors of the Trade Federation ship's command center?

    He stabs his lightsaber into it, pauses, draws it back out and re-inserts it while appearing to twist the handle. The door(s) start melting away.

    Is he increasing the length of the blade? Increasing the energy output of the blade? What?
     
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  22. firesaber

    firesaber Jedi Master star 4

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    You need to take in the whole scene. The first cut was a simple cut a hole in the door and walk through. When the secondary doors close look at his face and note the music cue. He's having the force guide him through where the saber will do the most good with the door. From there it's just thermo-dynamics.


    Remember, this could have been the alternative were he not guided by the force:

     
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  23. Alexrd

    Alexrd Force Ghost star 5

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    None of that. He starts to cut an opening through the door then the blast doors are activated. He senses/hears it, and decides to try again but keep the saber in so that it can melt the excessively thick doors where they are more fragile (at the center). He couldn't do the same thing he was doing once the blast doors were activated.
     
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