Books Journey to TFA: Weapon of a Jedi by Jason Fry

It's not that Jabba deserves any sympathy - but his minions, slaves, etc on the sail barge, might.

 

Ah, a new version of the Death Star contractors argument.

You get points for creativity but that's about it as the Clerks answer applies.

 

Just saying, Luke kills a lot of people in the OT and wasn't like beating himself up over it so him leaving this guy to rot ain't that crazy.

 

Read this in one evening a few nights ago.

Very very good.

 

Another argument is that Luke hasn't learned all his lessons by this point - he's a Knight, not a Master. I've always felt the point of Ben's and Yoda's teachings - aimed at Anakin as well as Luke - was that sacrifice is what wins in the end.

At the beginning of ROTJ Luke has become a warrior, but hasn't yet achieved enlightenment. His warrior skills allow him to defeat Vader, but they can't defeat the greater evil of the Emperor, who can only be defeated by Luke's willingness to suffer and die; this in turn teaches Anakin his final lesson, and so on.

In the Jabba section, he is the kind of Knight we see his father embody in The Clone Wars - assured, deadly, a little cocky, improvisational (he kills the unexpected rancor), but capable of strategy (the hidden lightsaber.) In the throne room, he's more like Ben or Yoda at the end.

 

I'm not really seeing the point where we disagree, except for a somewhat flippant one-liner that you've decided to take very seriously.

I don't see Luke as, after Tattooine, going to the bar Home One, buying a round of drinks and whooping to the sky that the fat slug's gone, but neither do I see him dwelling much on the fact that Jabba's dead.

 

I'm not sure where this came from

 

What I can't see is what you're hinting at over the difference. I mean you've gone and liked a post where I said Luke shouldn't try and redeem everyone then posted your recent stuff, it's hard to see what you're getting at.

I think the problem with both Vader and Jabba is people tend to see each as representative of Luke deciding an absolute one-size-fits-all position on redemption or criminals and I don't buy that. If anything, Luke works on a case-by-case basis, improvising as he goes - he isn't prejudicial - you can see that in his dealings with Sarco, but once a being has demonstrated their nature clearly? He responds to that, but never to the degree of 'kill' being option 1.

 

I can see that. I always thought of it as Luke not giving up on a peaceful resolution and hoping Jabba would change his mind (stupid in hindsight).

 

I think Luke genuinely was giving Jabba one last chance to give up peacefully, but at the same time he really didn't care whether or not Jabba did. It was just in his nature to offer it one more time, but he was willing to do what he had to either way.

 

When he's being led off "You should have bargained Jabba" sounds a lot like a taunt, but then again he did give another chance at the Sarlacc "Last chance, Free us,or die" so I'm happy with that characterisation. There's not much more he could have done IMO.

Whether it was necessary to blow up the entire sail barge after Jabba was dead though . . . I can see why some people would question that

 

For one, did Luke know Jabba was dead?
For two, what is stopping any potential successor or guard from pursuing anyways?
For three, was the intent to destroy the sail barge, or damage/disable it and knock it out of commission, and the complete destruction just the result?

 

probably. He's a jedi.

Exactly

who knows

 

Thanks, that clears away the haze nicely and it turns out to be a case of net discussion haze where it looks like we're saying different stuff when we're not.

 

who says redeem. taking him to a prison was what i was thinking. better than letting someone die alone

 

What makes you think that's viable JM? Luke had difficulty enough surviving his duel with Sarco.

 

Not as good as Smuggler's Run but still a solid read. Here's my review: https://joshgill.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/book-review-star-wars-the-weapon-of-a-jedi-jason-fry/

 

right, that is the one caveat. i justed wanted to see him wrestling with it a little, thats all. I understand he did not have the ability to actually do it at that point.

 

So this is a thing that happened.

 

Uh, wow, okay.

That is pretty cool.

 

Spoils the hell out of it, I guess, but y'know.

 

http://www.nestle-comics.com/media/videos/EN_SWMC_Luke_Final_1.mp4?_=10

Not sure how to embed this video, so check the link. It's pretty cool.