Amph Marvel's The Defenders

Why couldn't Misty Knight have been the fourth Defender? She's perfect.

 

Valkyrie?

 

This came up in my Facebook timeline today:



I'd probably replace Claire with Colleen though.

 

No!

Misty Knight.

 

I'd settle for her too.

Spoiler

Especially with the bionic arm.

 

Well, Stick was pretty much a member of the Defenders.

 

Wow, so much Danny hate.

But someone's gotta be THAT guy.

4 temperaments

Choleric: Jessica
Melancholic: Matt
Phlegmatic: Luke
Sanguine: Danny

Though they all trade off at different points in the story, save Luke.

 

Well, Danny was pretty much sounded like a broken record in both Iron Fist and The Defenders when he kept saying the sole purpose was to destroy the Hand. Dude, didn't know what the Hand is. I mean, he literally didn't know a member of the Hand when it was punching him in the face. Additionally, The Hand knew more about the Iron Fist than he did, and Danny spent most of his life training to be the immortal weapon.

Iron Fist was botched from the start with the miscasting of someone that is inept in martial arts and lacks charisma. The actress that plays Colleen Wing should have been cast as Dany Rand as it would have solve a lot of issues, such as the race controversy, martial arts skills, etc.

Anyway, Defenders certainly sets up a path for Danny Rand in Season 2 of Iron Fist. However, I hope season 2 of Iron Fist and Luke Cage are more of a crossover between the two characters, paving the way for Heroes for Hire. I'm sure Misty Knight will play a bigger role in Luke Cage season 2.

I would have expected Karen Paige to write an article naming the team, The Defenders or something to the effect of "these defenders of New York..." much like how Daredevil got his name.

 

I'm not sure about Luke Cage (which will feature more Claire).

But they've already said that Misty Knight will be one of the leads in Iron Fist season 2, with Danny and Colleen.

 

i'm surprised they can keep going with these shows. it felt like they had about ten dollars to make the defenders.

 

Makes sense as it looks like they're going to spin out Daughters of the Dragon.

That's why they can keep making these shows. It's like Blumhouse Studio churning out all those horror flicks for ten bucks.

 

$20.

Iron Filings paid $10 to be in it.

 

Is there more about the "Five Fingers" in Iron Fist (or Luke Cage)? I didn't watch those series and I was pretty lost concerning their story.
1) Why did they follow Sigourney Weaver?
2) Why was she dying and not the others?

Concerning Elektra
1) She played pretty clueless until the final episode. How long was she "playing"?
a) Was it the entire time or did she get her entire memory back when she slept in Matt's bed?

Final note:
Did anyone else find it weird how much Luke and Jessica were flirting when I assumed that Luke was with Claire?

 

She's dying because she has a disease.

 

She got her full memory back when she slept in Matt's bed. They actually show a flashback of Mattt waking her up back in Daredevil season 2. This is her remembering that.
This is to show she got her memories back.

From dialogue, it seems Sigourney was the one who first led the hand co-up against the elders of K'uylin.

All five needed the "substance" to continue veiny immortal, but they run out. Bakuto justbused the last of his when he came back to life after Iron Fist.

But Sigourney used the last big portion of that they all had to return Elektra to life.

That's why the others were pissed.

Sigourney herself was dying, probably because she was probably dying of disease in her first life before she found the substance. But that's just me guessing.

 

There were no references to the "Five Fingers" of the Hand in either Luke Cage or Iron Fist. IIRC, there wasn't any mention of the Hand in Luke Cage as it focused on the neighborhood crime boss, Cottonmouth and his corrupt cousin, councilwoman Mariah Dillard, and then in the final act Diamondback.

Alexandra, Sigourney Weaver's character, was having massive organ failures most likely caused by old age/deteriorating body. Thus, telling Madame Gao to move up the timetable to get the "substance" as pointed out above by cerealbox.

I was really hoping there would be a scene like this in The Defenders where Elektra is leading an army of Hand Ninjas against the Defenders.

 

it felt like they introduced the "five fingers" so that they could basically have five madame gaos and then have a bunch of "boss deaths", then in the end still only have one madame gao.

 

I honestly think they did it so the Hand wasn't a pure Japanese evil ninja cult, like in the comics.

Because you know, racial undertones. Especially since only Colleen is Asian. While the 4 primary Defenders are 3 whites and 1 black.


Those 4 vs all Japanese ninja evil guys. Yeah, that would not go well for modern audiences.

 

that also makes sense.

 

I know a lot of people hate the Iron Fist series because of Danny Rand, but since my only experience with both Danny and Colleen is the Defenders series, I must say that Colleen was pretty annoying and poorly acted.

 

I like the thought, but it was pretty much established in the two seasons of Daredevil (moreso in season 2) that the Hand Ninjas were Japanese.



And if IIRC, Goa was established to have her own cult/crew and hinted that she was Mother Crane. It was only in Iron Fist when it was shown that Gao was a member of the Hand.

Yeah, if you watched Iron Fist your opinion would have changed. Danny Rand was the worse thing about Iron Fist.

 

She's better in the Iron Fist series just as how Misty is better in the Luke Cage series.

Reason being they are those series deuteragonist. While in Defenders, they're not.

They had to find some way to have Colleen stay out of the 4 Defenders way, since she has more reason to fight the Hand than even Danny or Matt.

Thus the writers keep taking her away from the primary action in Defenders, and she seems whiny as a result.

Unlike Claire, the audience surrogate, who knows this whole thing is ridiculous, but just goes with the flow.

 

So since I'm done with the Defenders, should I give Iron Fist a shot?