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PT Qui-Gon Jinn: the one chosen to discover the Chosen One

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Ananta Chetan, Mar 17, 2014.

  1. Ananta Chetan

    Ananta Chetan Force Ghost star 5

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    Why was Qui-Gon selected by the Force to find Anakin? What particular perspective and skills did he bring to such a task that made him the proper choice? Also what was the possible connection between this and his discovering the path of immortality and teaching it to others?

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  2. TheChosenSolo

    TheChosenSolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The easy answer: He's freaking Liam Neeson.

    The in-universe answer: More tough to say. We know he was one of the greatest of those who followed the Living Force idea, and some of his ideals kept him at odds with the Jedi Council. I see him as the epitome of the Old Jedi Order, maybe it could only have been him.
     
  3. SlashMan

    SlashMan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    ^Indeed, Qui-Gon was a maverick amongst the Jedi, and it was a rare instance for a Jedi to act out in such ways. By following his instincts and trusting the Force above all, Qui-Gon located the chosen one, and made the decision to bring him before the Jedi.

    I believe Qui-Gon had partial training beforehand when it came to his immortality. I definitely believe there's a connection when it comes to Qui-Gon's personality. He was a lot more open to new ideas, and prone to bending the rules. Ironically, it was his seemingly reckless behavior that lead him to immortality (as well as the ability to teach others).
     
  4. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    Qui Gon Jinn was quite different than the other PT Jedi, he's not that stubborn and trusted Anakin when he was a "nobody", even Padme and Obi Wan didn't have much trust in him.
     
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  5. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well because:
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  6. TheChosenSolo

    TheChosenSolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I believe I answered that already. :cool:
     
  7. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    In my mind, the two are absolutely connected. Qui-Gon's decision to be an outlier in his approach to the Force, likely sacrificing some attention that could be used on honing combat skills and focusing instead on the essence of the living force and learning its nuances possibly cost him his life. However, he is the embodiment of the triumph of the spirit and the mind over the body and the weapon, a different breed of Jedi than any of his peers.

    I also think that his independent streak can be partially accredited to Dooku - while Anakin bolted the Order after only 12-13 years, Dooku spent the majority of his life adhering to a code, and was pragmatic enough to realize, that late in life, that it no longer made sense to him and it was time to change course. Not that many people out there spend 40+ years working for one company, only to quit one day and start working for their competitors, to place it in our own world.
     
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  8. Garrett Atkins

    Garrett Atkins Jedi Knight star 4

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    Obi-Wan should have found Anakin IMO.
     
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  9. JediKnightOB1

    JediKnightOB1 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Here me out before you hate.


    Jar Jar was the chosen one. If he wouldn't have gone along with Uncle Palpy's scheme, he could have brought balance to the Force.
     
  10. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Qui Gon's defiance = not a narrow minded & dogmatic Jedi.

    That's why and what made him the perfect man for the job(s).
     
  11. Rvaj

    Rvaj Jedi Youngling

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    Qui-Gon discovers Anakin, but later dies before he gives any real training to him. Does anyone ever wonder that if Qui-Gon didn't die, Anakins teachings would be different, and thus not be succumb by the Dark side?
     
  12. mikeximus

    mikeximus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    As others have said, I believe it was his trusting in the Living Force. Remember that Qui Gonn corrects a young Obi Wan about concentrating on the Living Force, and not getting caught up in the future (going against Yoda's teachings). Qui Gonn's answer even explains that the living force is the here and now, what's going on in the force at that moment. That you don't use the force to look into the future at the expense of the moment (living force).
     
  13. TX-20

    TX-20 Force Ghost star 4

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    Is there a prophecy about the Chooser of the Chosen One?
     
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  14. Obi-yoda

    Obi-yoda Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I don't think so... but it would be interesting if there was.
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  15. DRush76

    DRush76 Jedi Master star 4

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    Oh please! I do get tired of these comments that try to place the blame of Palpatine's rise on Jar Jar. He merely played a small part. There were others . . . including Anakin, Padme, the Jedi, the Senate, Count Dooku, Sifo-Dyas and the Republic at large.

    The person who mainly responsible is Palpatine.
     
  16. TheChosenSolo

    TheChosenSolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Technically, the blame falls on
    Hego Damask.
     
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  17. Ananta Chetan

    Ananta Chetan Force Ghost star 5

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    [face_laugh] What if the Chooser and the Chosen One are fundamentally in essence the same?
     
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  18. Garrett Atkins

    Garrett Atkins Jedi Knight star 4

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    Do you get jokes?
     
  19. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    Like when Bush tapped Cheney to find him a vice presidential candidate?
     
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  20. Ananta Chetan

    Ananta Chetan Force Ghost star 5

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    Possibly. ;)

    Now since watching TCW finale, I can somehow imagine the disembodied spirit of Qui-Gon silently observing the celebration scene at the end of ROTJ and the deep since of satisfaction and fulfillment he must experience to finally see his initial feelings about Anakin come to fruition.
     
  21. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Please, please, please, no more choosing!
     
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  22. Ananta Chetan

    Ananta Chetan Force Ghost star 5

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    I choose decide to Like MOC Yak Face's post.

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  23. Jedi Princess

    Jedi Princess Jedi Master star 4

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    I believe that this is the real meaning behind the "Duel of the Fates," and why that piece of music is so much more intense than anything Williams had written for Star Wars up until that point. The fight between Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, and Darth Maul seems relatively simple (good guys meet bad guy, they fight), but the fate of the cosmos literally hangs in the balance, because that duel determines Anakin's future.

    I adore Obi-Wan. He did the best he could. But he was too young and too by-the-book a Jedi to be the father and mentor Anakin needed. I don't blame Obi-Wan for Anakin's fall whatsoever; Anakin was an adult at that point, and I truly do think Obi-Wan did the best he could. But I agree that if Qui-Gon had survived to train him, Anakin's fate would have been far different.
     
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  24. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    The interesting thing there, if we go with the assumptions in this thread about Qui-Gon's personality being important, is that it suggests Maul managed to derail the will of the Force - or at least of the light side.
     
  25. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    he wasn't selected. it just happened. the hyperdrive was leaking and tatooine was the closest system. fate.