I was alerted to this thread in the Episode III Spoilers section, and I really liked it. It's spoilerfree, so don't worry, it's just a shame we don't get the same quality speculation here as they do in the Spoiler forum. Anyways, with permission from the original poster suineme, here is the first post from that thread that really got some brain gears churning: _________________________ A lot of people think that Qui Gonn Jinn was a fool for thinking that Anakin would bring balance to the force, but I think he not only turns out to be right about that, but a number of other things. Did you ever notice that the Force is described differently in the prequels? In the original trilogy, it seems like this mystic energy that binds and surrounds all living things. In the prequels, it's almost scientific, the way they describe it. Qui Gonn was aware of that but he also seemed to believe in "the living force", which is a belief that is closer to what we see Yoda and Obi-Wan talk about in episodes 4, 5, and 6. It's true that George Lucas probably hadn't thought up midi-chlorians back in the 70's, but I think he is making it seem technical in the prequels to make a point. The jedi are arrogant, and they rely more now on technology and their own institution than anything else. In episode 2, we see how Qui Gonn can call to Anakin, presumably from beyond the grave. According to the book, Yoda seems quite surprised by this, because he believed that once you die, you become one with the force. In other words, you can't maintain your identity. I think the reason why Qui Gonn did not disappear when he died is that he was just beginning to figure things out. In other words, he began to understand how to do this, but his life was cut short. Perhaps that is what he was trying to do when he meditated, before fighting darth maul. But he didnt retain his full identity after death, there are only "echoes". Which would also explain why we heard the voice sample from Episode 1, not Liam Neeson saying something completely new. So where does that leave us? I think that in episode 3 (which is why I am posting this here), Yoda, and perhaps Obi Wan, begin to understand the "living force" and perfect the technique of retaining your identity after death. Maybe this won't be addressed at all, but it should be, because it's an important question. By the time of Episode 4, both Yoda and Obi-Wan have embraced the idea of the "living force", and have finished where Qui Gonn Jinn left off. This is just my two cents, but I think it explains things pretty well. __________________ Personally, I think this finally explains why midichlorians were introduced in TPM at all, and now I see Lucas isn't just an idiot, or purposely trying to ruin the Force by making it seem like something scientific. The fact that the Jedi think it's scientific leads to their downfall, and the OT version of the Force is the real Force, yet only Qui-Gon could see that.