JCC Scottish Independence Referendum Thread

camewon cwied! yes vote died!

 

Why are we talking about a one eyed, left wing Scottish git?

 

So... We'll find out the decision on Talk like a Pirate Day?

 

I normally "Flounce Out" of the JC on "Talk Like A Pirate Day" but I'll have to stick it out this time.

So, RBS has confirmed they are planning to leave Scotland for London

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29151798

 

'tis okay. Most of it was confined to one thread last year (mine), so maybe the same will happen this year.

 

Here's hoping the result is "I am disinclined to acquiesce to your request. Means no."

 

Is relocation of corporate HQ and/or registered address just a matter of where a nameplate is, as Salmond seems to be suggesting, or does it decide where the Taxes are paid?

From what I remember of the discussion about recent merger/takeover attempts, it would seem to be the latter.

 

Believe it protects the corporation under specific UK banking laws which may or may not be in effect if Scotland votes yes.

 

Media seemed surprised by the anti-English elements of the Yes! campaign

 

North Korea has come out for an Independent Scotland;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor.../North-Korea-backs-Scottish-independence.html

They seem to be expecting to forge "strong trading links"...

 

You see, Scotland?! You think the English are ********s? Do yourself a favour and check out your new friends...

Edit: A thought has just occurred to me. iScotland could enter a currency union with North Korea! I looked it up and apparently the North Korean currency is the Won.

Edit again: I think this nicely vindicates the Australian prime minister's view on the matter:

 

Yep, all the worlds crazies will be celebrating the UK's self immolation (if it happens)

 

If Scotland becomes independent, how is it going to maintain its resources?

 

One eyed = irrelevant
Left win = awesome
Scottish = okay, I guess
Git = speak English, please

Next question!

 

Waste piece of metal on a casting, usually the solidified contents of the pour-hole. Probable closest term in American is 'Sprue'.

 

joke
Syllabification: joke
Pronunciation: /jōk/
NOUN
1. A thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline: "she was in a mood to tell jokes"

 

do you write for a middle school newspaper?

 

Scotland beginning to step back from the brink?

YouGov/News Internatiomal

YES 48% (-3) NO 52% (+3)

Is within the 3% margin for error of course, but good to see YES have lost their lead with YouGov.

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/8972

The UK's best pollster, ICM, will be releasing their final Indy Poll tomorrow.

 

Ok, so stupid question(s) time

1) If the people vote "No", what's to stop the Scottish government ignoring that and proceeding with a "Yes" anyway?

2) If the people vote "No", what's to stop the Scottish government from continuously having referenda until the people vote "Yes"?

 

There is no Scottish government, not in the sense that you're describing. They don't have the mandate to act unilaterally.

Salmond and co. all agree it should be a question asked once per generation, so unless there's some constitutional crisis, there should be 20-30 years before the next round.

That is, if they don't win this time.

 

1) As the Scottish people would have voted to remain in the UK, a unilateral attempt to separate anyway would probably constitute treason. I would assume that the punishment for treason is a very long prison sentence.

2) It is my understanding that the UK government can grant referendums at their discretion. In this case, the government had to grant Scotland their referendum because we are a democratic country and the Scottish people have a right to determine their own destiny. In the event of a no vote, the Scottish people would have already made their choice therefore requests for further referendums could simply be denied. That doesn't mean that a no vote buries Scottish independence forever of course. After a sufficient passage of time it would probably become appropriate again to grant Scotland another referendum if they asked for it.

 

yeah i think its quite likely that you can expect a referendum every 20-30 years until it succeeds, like with devolution (second time was the charm on that, iirc)

no matter the outcome, its clearly going to be close enough that we can assume this idea of independence isnt going to just disappear from the scottish imagination

 

Latest poll reporting that the referendum is "too close to call"

ICM/Guardian

YES 49% NO 51%

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/12/scottish-referendum-too-close-to-call-says-icm-poll

The vote is still on a knife edge - This time next week we will have the final result anyway.